Chiefs Chiefs are looking for a 2nd and a pick in 2014 for Albert - Page 16

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM

Chiefs are seeking a second-round pick in this year's draft as well as another pick in 2014 in a trade for franchise OT Branden Albert.
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) March 22, 2013

mcaj22 · 03-22-2013, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

It'll be interesting to see who the fans turn on first if a lot of sacks are given up.

Is it Jockel's fault for letting them through, or Smith's fault for holding onto the ball too long?

injury prone veteran QB behind inexperienced young offensive line

yep that screams 6-10 with Chase Daniel starting half the season

**BossChief** · 03-22-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We're going to be coming dangerously close to replicating the major tenets of the Scott ***** plan, but rather than letting Albert walk, we'll receive some compensation.

Thus, Doreid have shown to possess at slightly greater common sense. But acquiring Alex Smith, at the price they paid, is asinine in every possible way, and this is a play directly from *****'s handbook of dumb****ery.

But we need to "give the new regime the benefit of the doubt," apparently. Why? No clue.

Because if they don't ignore the similarities, they have to deal with the reality.

Herds of posters are in the rationalizing state of this, dare I say, Process2.

mcaj22 · 03-22-2013, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why would they bite? How many LT's have you seen get traded for a 2nd round pick? Honest question, because i can't remember the last one.

LTs can be found in this draft....hell in every draft....Albert was a 17th overall iirc.

the answer to this is....

Andy Reid traded a 28th? overall first rounder for LT Jason Peters

ModSocks · 03-22-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the answer to this is....

Andy Reid traded a 28th? overall first rounder for LT Jason Peters

Ah ok. Yeah, i really didn't know.

KC native · 03-22-2013, 11:04 AM

Un****ing believable. **** this franchise.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-22-2013, 11:04 AM

Alex Smith getting KTFOd wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Then we can pass on another crop of young QBs next year and have the same lively and original debate over QB prospects that we've had every year since 2009.

**ptlyon** · 03-22-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native

Un****ing believable. **** this franchise.

No shit. Just trade him to SF & get our shit back

Ace Gunner · 03-22-2013, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why would they bite? How many LT's have you seen get traded for a 2nd round pick? Honest question, because i can't remember the last one.

LTs can be found in this draft....hell in every draft....Albert was a 17th overall iirc.

Every damn year there is some "elite" lt in the draft. Never fails....it also never fails that that LT is mocked to the Chiefs, lol.

And for the record, i don't think the Chiefs will trade Albert. I also don't think they will draft Joeckel.

If they do draft Joeckel, i think it'll be because they think they can't retain Albert, not because they think Joeckel is significantly better.

It smells like a cost cutting move.

well, ya

Dane nailed it.

**The Franchise** · 03-22-2013, 11:10 AM

I'll take Kyle Long at LT over Luke Joeckel.

Chiefnj2 · 03-22-2013, 11:10 AM

Why would any team give up that much for Albert when they know KC is caught between a rock and a hard place?

Things going against KC:
- There are still some quality tackles available in free agency where you don't have to give up two draft picks.
- If they don't take a tackle at 1.1 who else are they going to take? It isn't going to be a QB. They are going to use a #1 on Milliner, or a questionable DT? This draft sucks to have the #1.
- Albert's back spasms may spook teams from having to give a big paycheck and draft picks.
- If they take a tackle and Albert is on the roster KC has essentially drafted a RT (for the year), or they are dealing with a disgruntled Branden.

BigCatDaddy · 03-22-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That's understandable and I would love to have Fisher too, but here's what we should realize.

What players in this draft are better pure football players than Joeckel or Fisher?

Those 2 are easily the best in this class.

Geno? You know the guy all of the teams in the top 10 that need a QB are salivating over.

kcfanXIII · 03-22-2013, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

TE and WR not better? QB is ten times better

False

DTLB58 · 03-22-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so they are trying to use Albert to recover the cost of Alex Smith?

Appears so. From this story. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...randen-albert/

The Chiefs will seek a second-round pick in this year’s draft as well as another pick in 2014 in a trade for Albert, ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports. We don’t yet know what that other pick in 2014 would be, but it could be a conditional pick designed to replace the conditional 2014 pick the Chiefs gave up for Smith.

DTLB58 · 03-22-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I don't mind this at all. I think that is more than fair. I think we overrate Albert a bit...I think he's solid, don't get me wrong...but he's not a world beater and he is coming off an injury.

I think people need to settle down on this board.

Well, you gotta find someone to give you that much first.

I think, this information makes it less likely a deal will get done if, the Chiefs stand by these demands.

Fritz88 · 03-22-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Why do you care how much he costs? Is it your money?

And so what if they save 5 mill a year. Does that mean they are going to go out and spend it on some high quality player (as if you could get one for that 5mill....)? The Chiefs have a history of that?

Yup, saving 25 millions over five years won't help in signing, re-signing players.

Drop that pipe.
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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7913688	Why would any team give up that much for Albert when they know KC is caught between a rock and a hard place? Things going against KC: - There are still some quality tackles available in free agency where you don't have to give up two draft picks. - If they don't take a tackle at 1.1 who else are they going to take? It isn't going to be a QB. They are going to use a #1 on Milliner, or a questionable DT? This draft sucks to have the #1. - Albert's back spasms may spook teams from having to give a big paycheck and draft picks. - If they take a tackle and Albert is on the roster KC has essentially drafted a RT (for the year), or they are dealing with a disgruntled Branden. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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