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3-5 with Geno 18 8.41%
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:27 PM  
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Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno?

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:39 PM   #406
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To the mother ****ing ship with a shitty Right Tackle ya'll!

Seriously though, who on here was ecstatic about drafting a RT at 1.1?
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:39 PM   #407
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Oh, I'm sure he's every bit as mad as I am.

That's the difference between a man who loses $5k in one month on my salary and Clark losing $20 million.

We're both flaming mad but he won't be eating Top Ramen for 3 months...
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:41 PM   #408
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Seriously though, who on here was ecstatic about drafting a RT at 1.1?
At the time he was a LT. Not a RT. It is still to be discovered if that changes back this off season.
I sure wasn't happy with Fisher.
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:43 PM   #409
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At the time he was a LT. Not a RT. It is still to be discovered if that changes back this off season.
I sure wasn't happy with Fisher.
At the time we had a starting LT.

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Fish wasn't even the best LT prospect - he was just the one we drafted...
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:46 PM   #410
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One more time. Geno would not have had to be selected 1.1
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Old 10-29-2013, 02:50 PM   #411
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At the time we had a starting LT.

Tagged.

Fish wasn't even the best LT prospect - he was just the one we drafted...
Fisher has a higher ceiling but a lower floor as far as talent. Which made him the better long term prospect. Joekel has a higher floor but lower ceiling.

Albert was tagged at the time yes, but we were still trying to trade him at that time as well.
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Fisher has a higher ceiling but a lower floor as far as talent. Which made him the better long term prospect. Joekel has a higher floor but lower ceiling.

Albert was tagged at the time yes, but we were still trying to trade him at that time as well.
This is a huge misconception.

Joekel played much better competition and played at a high level. He was also more technical and (IIRC) a 4 year starter. A better prospect.

Fisher had a good combine and a better frame. He was raw. Didn't play much upper level competition.
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This is a huge misconception.
There are a lot of those.
It very well may be but only time will tell for sure.
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One more time. Geno would not have had to be selected 1.1
Apparently every team was antsy about spending a draft pick on Geno, every team passed on him, a number passed on him twice.

The Jets actually passed on Geno twice. They traded Revis to get into the first round and select Dee Milliner. Then a few picks later in the teens they picked Sheldon Richardson.

QB-poor Minnesota actually passed on him three times.
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Apparently every team was antsy about spending a draft pick on Geno, every team passed on him, a number passed on him twice.

The Jets actually passed on Geno twice. They traded Revis to get into the first round and select Dee Milliner. Then a few picks later in the teens they picked Sheldon Richardson.

QB-poor Minnesota actually passed on him three times.
And a fine job they've done with QB evaluating. Do you really want to hang your hat on them?
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Point is a QB that is passed on that many times was never in any way worthy of being drafted at 1.1. He has continued to show that he was not worthy of being drafted there. A mid to late 2cd or 3rd round quality of a QB can be had in any given year. It was the correct move not to have taken Geno at 1.1, but some don't care about that. They just want what they want, they don't have to pay the premium or the consequences that are involved yet everyone else is stupid, homer, etc.
Eric Fisher surely was not worthy of being drafted there, right?

With some of the gaffes I've seen out of Geno this year, he hasn't been as brutally terrible as Eric Fisher has been at the tackle position. Not even close.

But Eric Fisher gets time. Geno Smith threw a couple pick 6s, so he'll never ever be a great QB. Ever. Right?
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And a fine job they've done with QB evaluating. Do you really want to hang your hat on them?
It was not just Minnesota's judgement; the league's opinion was universal on Geno, he is not a first-round quality QB.

He played a good game, so far. Maybe he will realize his potential and be the next Josh Freeman one day.
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Which win did Smith put this team on his back and will them to win?
The 98 yard drive for a touchdown against NY doesn't count?

The 98 yard drive for a touchdown last week doesn't count?
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The 98 yard drive for a touchdown against NY doesn't count?

The 98 yard drive for a touchdown last week doesn't count?
The defense won last week's game by, you know, actually doing their job while the offense sat around and generated all of 31 yards in the second half.
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