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Old 10-05-2011, 05:39 PM  
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:49 PM   #241
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:51 PM   #242
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You have clearly not watched The Social Network.
I did not... mostly because I knew ahead of time that it was HEAVILY fictionalized and adapted from a book that was told from the point of view of ONE PERSON. Much of the story told is disputed by multiple sources. So who knows what the real truth is. I won't defend Zuck.. I frankly have no clue on him.

Jobs is someone I have taken issue with since 1985, so I know his story.
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Old 10-06-2011, 03:53 PM   #243
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I've never been a big techie in awe of all of his accomplishments, but i have to say that the clip i keep seeing of him at the commencement address is very inspirational.

In essence 'we are all already naked (facing death), so pursue your dreams to the fullest', i really liked it.

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Old 10-06-2011, 04:03 PM   #244
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I did not... mostly because I knew ahead of time that it was HEAVILY fictionalized and adapted from a book that was told from the point of view of ONE PERSON. Much of the story told is disputed by multiple sources. So who knows what the real truth is. I won't defend Zuck.. I frankly have no clue on him.

Jobs is someone I have taken issue with since 1985, so I know his story.
Just like you KNOW the man himself, right?
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:08 PM   #245
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Just like you KNOW the man himself, right?
No, but I KNOW the facts surrounding him and his actions.. Jesus, how ****ing hard is that to understand. Yes, he may have changed his ways and become a sweetheart the last few years... but since I have ZERO evidence of that and an overwhelming amount of evidence showing him to be a prick for most of his life.. I'll go with what I KNOW.

Quit being dense. You don't KNOW Kim Jong-Il but I'd guess you could study up and know enough of his actions to draw a reasonable conclusion as to what kind of person he is. This isn't rocket surgery dude.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around people excusing him stealing from Woz. It's not like stealing an idea or stealing credit.. he directly STOLE money from him... that's beyond shitty. End of story.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:14 PM   #246
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No, but I KNOW the facts surrounding him and his actions.. Jesus, how ****ing hard is that to understand. Yes, he may have changed his ways and become a sweetheart the last few years... but since I have ZERO evidence of that and and an overwhelming amount of evidence showing him to be a prick for most of his life.. I'll go with what I KNOW.

Quit being dense. You don't KNOW Kim Jong-Il but I'd guess you could study up and know enough of his actions to draw a reasonable conclusion as to what kind of person he is. This isn't rocket surgery dude.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around people excusing him stealing from Woz. It's not like stealing an idea or stealing credit.. he directly STOLE money from him... that's beyond shitty. End of story.
I think the sticking point here is being a prick and being a revolutionary and important figure aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, those that are the most influential have often been cited to be among the most dastardly. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the guy, but I can definitely see those who believe that in exchange for his contributions he is above reproach for whatever underhanded shit he did.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:17 PM   #247
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I think the sticking point here is being a prick and being a revolutionary and important figure aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, those that are the most influential have often been cited to be among the most dastardly. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of the guy, but I can definitely see those who believe that in exchange for his contributions he is above reproach for whatever underhanded shit he did.
This is the part that I take exception to... I have no problem with everyone lauding his accomplishments (regardless of any arguments over who deserves credit, blah blah blah) but I have problems with the "sainthood" being applied to him by far too many people. Accomplishments NEVER NEVER NEVER can excuse being a bad person. Period. That type of thinking is wrong and frankly, dangerous as hell.

Yes he was a "visionary", yes he was a revolutionary... and he was also a bad human. Let's not forget that part too.

Just keeping it all in perspective.
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Old 10-06-2011, 04:47 PM   #248
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:01 PM   #249
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Jobs is someone I have taken issue with since 1985, so I know his story.
So once he left Apple you got mad at him?

And how do you know the Jobs "stealing" $2000 is even true? I've had $2000 or more stolen from me so many times it has to be in the hundreds.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:02 PM   #250
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and he was also a bad human. Let's not forget that part too...
Bad human? A bit judgmental here. I'm not exactly Jobs' biggest fan, but the guy was a f****** competitor. He was definitely not a saint, and if you'd asked him if he was he probably would of laughed. It sounds like you really just hate his fanboiys, who tend to be the real pricks. But I'd definitely not call anyone 'bad humans'. That's just judgmental and wrong.

I never had problems with Jobs, I liked his energy, charisma, and what he brought to the table. I'm not such a big fan of iTunes, or the gay colored iMacs back in the day.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:03 PM   #251
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This is the part that I take exception to... I have no problem with everyone lauding his accomplishments (regardless of any arguments over who deserves credit, blah blah blah) but I have problems with the "sainthood" being applied to him by far too many people. Accomplishments NEVER NEVER NEVER can excuse being a bad person. Period. That type of thinking is wrong and frankly, dangerous as hell.

Yes he was a "visionary", yes he was a revolutionary... and he was also a bad human. Let's not forget that part too.

Just keeping it all in perspective.
Who is saying he was a saint? I worked with him alot and he wasn't perfect, no one said he was, he was a flawed human like all of us. If they wrote a 300 page expose on any of our lives there shit in there that would look bad period end of story. Maybe not MTG bad but bad none the less.
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Old 10-06-2011, 05:19 PM   #253
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What I disagree with is I think you're presupposing that had Jobs not been around, these innovations would have hit the market anyway.
They absolutely would have and did.

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Maybe so, but it would have taken a really long time.
They already were there and didn't.

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The product life cycle isn't smooth. Most revolutionary technologies hit what's called a life cycle chasm and never make it across. And until you cross that chasm, the technology runs into a ton of obstacles.
You seem to be conflating marketing with innovation. They are discrete entities.

iTunes was not a revolutionary idea, it was borrowed from 10+ year old technology at the time of its release.

The iPhone was a more marketable Palm Treo

Apple hasn't created anything truly revolutionary in many years. What they have done, masterfully, I might add, is create the belief that their products are revolutionary because of the way they market them.

These products had already had many years in which they were floating in your "life cycle chasm". Apple was prescient enough to see when those technologies were gaining momentum and adopters. By no means did they act as a tipping point for the adoption of those technologies.
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Bad human? A bit judgmental here. I'm not exactly Jobs' biggest fan, but the guy was a f****** competitor. He was definitely not a saint, and if you'd asked him if he was he probably would of laughed. It sounds like you really just hate his fanboiys, who tend to be the real pricks. But I'd definitely not call anyone 'bad humans'. That's just judgmental and wrong.

I never had problems with Jobs, I liked his energy, charisma, and what he brought to the table. I'm not such a big fan of iTunes, or the gay colored iMacs back in the day.
No, I take issue with Jobs... if you steal money from a "friend" who just did all the work for you.. you are a bad human... there is simply no excuse for it. There are tons of other stories of his bad behavior, but that one story sums up who he was more than any other.

If that makes me judgmental, then so be it.
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