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Old 12-13-2017, 08:31 PM  
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Peter Strzok & Co.

This shit is almost like a Tom Clancy book writing itself.

Mueller right now is ****ed for the time being.

A) He never mentioned anything about Sztrok when he found out about him
B) He tried to hide him
C) He still has not addressed his reasoning for hiding and not telling anyone

But that's all foreplay...

What many, many, many millions of people suspected all along is now coming to light to be accurate. The FBI aided Hillary Clinton. Not only did they help keep her out of legal trouble, they actively tried to sabotage Trump's campaign in an effort to get her elected.

Comey is thick in the middle of this. I do not buy the notion at this point that he didn't know anything. His reasoning for breaking protocol and rushing out his speech to exonerate Hillary is now clear. It's a matter of time before he is linked to using "the dossier" as well.

It has become almost indefensible to claim the FBI at some level was not used to attack a political parties' opponent. And Sztrok is proving it knowingly did so. Now you add in this Oher(sp?) guy and his Wife who was on the Fusion GPS payroll and it's all starting to become more and more clear.

Strzok was not some low-level, lackie doing as told. He was directing what was being done. And given the very colorful language in his text messages, I find it hard to believe he concealed his bias very well.

Now the IG has come along and basically blasted a big ****ing hole in Mueller's investigation. The text messages alone show motive to fabricate, embellish, twist, tweak and whatever other word you would like to use, evidence to if nothing else, hang an anchor around the neck of Trump and given the evidence, for no other reason than political bias.

We have seen 0, that's ZERO evidence of any Russian collusion. There isn't any. The indictments and pleas thus far are for non-related issues. We have seen 0, that's ZERO evidence of any obstruction, regardless of how the media so desperately wants to pretend there is. Legal scholars across the board have said that obstruction as a charge is basically DOA.

Now, you have Mueller who has stacked his team with pro-Clinton supporters and donors. His case against Trump, if he ever presents one, just got tainted by the FBI. But he knew this. Which is why he chose to hide Strzok and not say anything about it.

I suspect Mueller is out to protect his buddy and protege, Comey. The worst thing that could have happened to Mueller were these text messages from the FBI Agent who:

Investigated Hillary's e-mail
Changed text to keep Hillary free of legal charges
Interviewed Hillary
Interviewed Flynnn
Initiated the Russia-Collusion investigation

The evidence is clear. Unlike the hundreds of unsubstantiated claims of Trump working deals with Putin, Strzok was engaging in what are highly unethical and most likely illegal acts for nothing more than political bias.

And it doesn't stop there. Let us not forget Andy McCabe who's wife was the beneficiary of large campaign contributions from Terry McCaulife, long time friend of the Clinton's.

So as the Russian investigation continues, it is becoming more and more evident that not only will Trump be vindicated, but that Strzok & Co. may have committed one of the biggest FBI scandals in history.

And Dave Lane, you will be held to your bet so enjoy your time here while you have it.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:25 AM   #46
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And said absolutely dick about it to anyone. He tried to bury it. Nice try, Donger.
You mean that they didn't publicly? If so, that doesn't mean he tried to bury it. What evidence do you have that he tried to bury it?
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:26 AM   #47
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That's okay, Lex has clever (so he thinks) pictures that allow him to pretend this didn't happen.
I don't have to pretend anything. I'll go with the opinion of Rod Rosenstein, who, by the way, is a Republican appointee, and has served in the DOJ since Bush was President.

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There are a lot of media stories speculating about what the special counsel may or may not be doing. I know what (Mueller is) doing. I'm appropriately exercising my oversight responsibilities. So I can assure you that the special counsel is conducting himself consistently with our understanding about the scope of his investigation.

I think it's important to recognize that when we talk about political affiliation -- that all demonstrates political affiliation -- the issue of bias is something different. I have discussed this with Director Mueller ... We recognize we have employees with political opinions. And it's our responsibility to make sure those opinions do not influence their actions.

And so I believe that Director Mueller understands that and he is running that office appropriately, recognizing that people have political views, but ensuring that those views are not in any way a factor in how they conduct themselves in office.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...tee/index.html

I put more faith in Rod Rosenstein's analysis than in yours. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:30 AM   #48
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I don't have to pretend anything. I'll go with the opinion of Rod Rosenstein, who, by the way, is a Republican appointee, and has served in the DOJ since Bush was President.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...tee/index.html

I put more faith in Rod Rosenstein's analysis than in yours. Sorry to burst your bubble.


I really think he bring up some really good points. I wish Trey was the AG, I can't think of a guy in Congress who knows the law better than him.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:31 AM   #49
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FBI ON TRIAL:"The notion that three bureau agents would be conspiring or plotting on how to handle the outcome of the presidential election is the opposite of what you want in an objective, dispassionate, neutral FBI." - Rep. Trey Gowdy, on "The Story with Martha MacCallum," on how perceived conflicts of interest in Robert Mueller's probe of President Trump have hurt the FBI's and DOJ's standing in the public's view.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:32 AM   #50
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Mueller should have not have only tried to hide it, but should be investigating it as well.

But you know...Russia and stuff....
Mueller already has collusion & obstuction of Justice. What he is going after now is this Russian money laundering.

Here's a couple of debatepolitics links to explain it.
https://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...p-mob-now.html (Mueller already has Collusion and Obstruction of Justice--he's going after the Trump mob now.) https://www.debatepolitics.com/polls...is-empire.html (Do Russian Oligarchs own Trump and his empire?)
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:35 AM   #51
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Yes, the FBI is America's secret police

http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rig...-secret-police
And the totalitarian-leaning left LOVES it, when it's directed at conservatives!
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I really think he bring up some really good points. I wish Trey was the AG, I can't think of a guy in Congress who knows the law better than him.
The difference between Trey Gowdy and Rod Rosenstein is that Gowdy is a Republican who is a shameless partisan hack who consistently puts party over country, whereas Rosenstein is a Republican who has worked in the DOJ under three different Presidents and is extremely well-respected by everyone in both political parties.

Well, except for the partisan hacks who are so desperate to see Trump get away with collusion that they sling mud at a principled Republican who is simply doing the job he is supposed to be doing.
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Old 12-14-2017, 08:39 AM   #53
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I really think he bring up some really good points. I wish Trey was the AG, I can't think of a guy in Congress who knows the law better than him.
Rosenstein whacked Trey upside the head after he finished showboating. That was fun to watch. Thanks.
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Roger Stone has some serious legal issues going on also. Stone went public and said he was in contact with the Russian hacker known as Guccifer 2.0.

WASHINGTON Roger J. Stone Jr., an off-and-on adviser to President Trump for decades, has acknowledged that he had contact on Twitter with Guccifer 2.0, the mysterious online figure that is believed to be a front for Russian intelligence officials.

It is the first time that someone associated with Mr. Trump has confirmed any type of contact with Guccifer 2.0, which claimed to be a Romanian hacker and took credit for the hacking of the Democratic National Committee.


Roger Stone stated he had a backdoor into Wikileaks.

(CNN)In the final months of the 2016 campaign, longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone repeatedly discussed his backchannel communications with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and claimed knowledge of forthcoming leaks from the group, a CNN KFile review of his public statements shows. Stone's comments about WikiLeaks have come under increased scrutiny as the FBI and congressional committees investigate whether Trump associates were involved in Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/politi...ims/index.html


So Roger Stone himself, may be on one of Mueller's indictment lists.
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I don't have to pretend anything. I'll go with the opinion of Rod Rosenstein, who, by the way, is a Republican appointee, and has served in the DOJ since Bush was President.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/13/politi...tee/index.html

I put more faith in Rod Rosenstein's analysis than in yours. Sorry to burst your bubble.
You could never burst my bubble. But it's fun to watch you try....
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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You mean that they didn't publicly? If so, that doesn't mean he tried to bury it. What evidence do you have that he tried to bury it?
Yeah, actually it does, Donger.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Rosenstein whacked Trey upside the head after he finished showboating. That was fun to watch. Thanks.
Rosenstein took Trey's lunch money and sent him home hungry.

I really enjoyed watching that.
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I really think he bring up some really good points. I wish Trey was the AG, I can't think of a guy in Congress who knows the law better than him.
Gowdy has shown to be a feckless orator. He creates a conversation, but what has he done? Ever? I had great hope for him early, but my enthusiasm has waned for his inactive chest beating.
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Yeah, actually it does, Donger.
Perhaps you don't know what trying to bury something means?
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Yes, the FBI is America's secret police

http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rig...-secret-police
And the totalitarian-leaning left LOVES it, when it's directed at conservatives!
That insurance policy text smacks of a conspiracy to subvert a new Trump administration, at least insofar as its relationship to the FBI leadership goes.

That Strzok guy is sounding more and more like an internal hatchet man.
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