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Old 12-13-2017, 08:31 PM  
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Peter Strzok & Co.

This shit is almost like a Tom Clancy book writing itself.

Mueller right now is ****ed for the time being.

A) He never mentioned anything about Sztrok when he found out about him
B) He tried to hide him
C) He still has not addressed his reasoning for hiding and not telling anyone

But that's all foreplay...

What many, many, many millions of people suspected all along is now coming to light to be accurate. The FBI aided Hillary Clinton. Not only did they help keep her out of legal trouble, they actively tried to sabotage Trump's campaign in an effort to get her elected.

Comey is thick in the middle of this. I do not buy the notion at this point that he didn't know anything. His reasoning for breaking protocol and rushing out his speech to exonerate Hillary is now clear. It's a matter of time before he is linked to using "the dossier" as well.

It has become almost indefensible to claim the FBI at some level was not used to attack a political parties' opponent. And Sztrok is proving it knowingly did so. Now you add in this Oher(sp?) guy and his Wife who was on the Fusion GPS payroll and it's all starting to become more and more clear.

Strzok was not some low-level, lackie doing as told. He was directing what was being done. And given the very colorful language in his text messages, I find it hard to believe he concealed his bias very well.

Now the IG has come along and basically blasted a big ****ing hole in Mueller's investigation. The text messages alone show motive to fabricate, embellish, twist, tweak and whatever other word you would like to use, evidence to if nothing else, hang an anchor around the neck of Trump and given the evidence, for no other reason than political bias.

We have seen 0, that's ZERO evidence of any Russian collusion. There isn't any. The indictments and pleas thus far are for non-related issues. We have seen 0, that's ZERO evidence of any obstruction, regardless of how the media so desperately wants to pretend there is. Legal scholars across the board have said that obstruction as a charge is basically DOA.

Now, you have Mueller who has stacked his team with pro-Clinton supporters and donors. His case against Trump, if he ever presents one, just got tainted by the FBI. But he knew this. Which is why he chose to hide Strzok and not say anything about it.

I suspect Mueller is out to protect his buddy and protege, Comey. The worst thing that could have happened to Mueller were these text messages from the FBI Agent who:

Investigated Hillary's e-mail
Changed text to keep Hillary free of legal charges
Interviewed Hillary
Interviewed Flynnn
Initiated the Russia-Collusion investigation

The evidence is clear. Unlike the hundreds of unsubstantiated claims of Trump working deals with Putin, Strzok was engaging in what are highly unethical and most likely illegal acts for nothing more than political bias.

And it doesn't stop there. Let us not forget Andy McCabe who's wife was the beneficiary of large campaign contributions from Terry McCaulife, long time friend of the Clinton's.

So as the Russian investigation continues, it is becoming more and more evident that not only will Trump be vindicated, but that Strzok & Co. may have committed one of the biggest FBI scandals in history.

And Dave Lane, you will be held to your bet so enjoy your time here while you have it.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:04 AM   #91
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:04 AM   #92
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Meh, Gowdy and the Republicans have set up a situation that Rosenstein and Mueller have to know that there are 2 ways forward with this investigation 1) Mueller says there is nothing to prosecute Trump on, though maybe gives it the old gee the administration did some bad things but really not criminal. Much like Comey did with Hillary. or 2) the evidence is so cut and dried no one will be able to dispute his innocence and able to charge him.

It sort of rules out the obstruction. If there was a thread of evidence on the collusion we would have heard about it. So yeah I am thinking Mueller team is dead in the water unless they really have a smoking gun. It also is not going to be Flynn since he coped to a plea on lying.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:11 AM   #93
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Guess there is the chance that the FBI has sat on the smoking gun and kept it confidential, and only decided to leak the trivial evidence that has nothing to do with criminal collusion. I would bet the other way but you could be right.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:12 AM   #94
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Yea, because there's been no leaks on any other issues...

Prepare yourself for the letdown or you will have a much harder time with it...
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Guess there is the chance that the FBI has sat on the smoking gun and kept it confidential, and only decided to leak the trivial evidence that has nothing to do with criminal collusion. I would bet the other way but you could be right.
There's no reason to think Mueller has exposed his hole cards prior to the showdown.
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Yea, because there's been no leaks on any other issues...

Prepare yourself for the letdown or you will have a much harder time with it...
You need to stop watching Faux News so much, or you will have a much harder time with it.
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I used to be a moderate Republican.


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Old 12-14-2017, 10:15 AM   #98
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FBI officials said Clinton 'has to win' race to White House: NYT

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-offic...044941646.html

(Reuters) - Senior FBI officials who helped probe Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign told a colleague that Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had to win the race to the White House, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.

Peter Strzok, a senior FBI agent, said Clinton "just has to win" in a text sent to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, the Times reported.

The messages showed concern from Strzok and Page that a Trump presidency could politicize the FBI, the report said, citing texts turned over to Congress and obtained by the newspaper. http://nyti.ms/2AOHylP

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is investigating the texts in a probe into FBI's handling of its investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server for official correspondence when she was Secretary of State under former President Barack Obama, the report added.

Strzok was removed from working on the Russia probe after media reports earlier this month suggested he had exchanged text messages that disparaged Trump and supported Clinton.

Strzok was involved in both the Clinton email and Russia investigations.

Republicans, including Trump, have in recent weeks ramped up their attacks on the FBI and questioned its integrity.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller and congressional committees are investigating possible links between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia. Russia denies meddling in the 2016 U.S. elections.

The FBI, the Democratic National Committee and the White House did not respond to a request for comment outside regular business hours.

Reuters was unable to contact Peter Strzok and Lisa Page for comment.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:17 AM   #99
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You need to stop watching Faux News so much, or you will have a much harder time with it.
You need to watch MORE Fox news because you're starting to believe all the one sided bullshit.

You're not even close to moderate anymore.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:19 AM   #100
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Roger Stone has some serious legal issues going on also. Stone went public and said he was in contact with the Russian hacker known as Guccifer 2.0.

WASHINGTON — Roger J. Stone Jr., an off-and-on adviser to President Trump for decades, has acknowledged that he had contact on Twitter with Guccifer 2.0, the mysterious online figure that is believed to be a front for Russian intelligence officials.

It is the first time that someone associated with Mr. Trump has confirmed any type of contact with Guccifer 2.0, which claimed to be a Romanian hacker and took credit for the hacking of the Democratic National Committee.


Roger Stone stated he had a backdoor into Wikileaks.

(CNN)In the final months of the 2016 campaign, longtime Donald Trump associate Roger Stone repeatedly discussed his backchannel communications with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange and claimed knowledge of forthcoming leaks from the group, a CNN KFile review of his public statements shows. Stone's comments about WikiLeaks have come under increased scrutiny as the FBI and congressional committees investigate whether Trump associates were involved in Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/20/politi...ims/index.html


So Roger Stone himself, may be on one of Mueller's indictment lists.
Nope. This is a false story containing a lot of innuendo. I follow Stone. Roger Stone completely denies this, because he talked to someone else who had those contacts. He did not have direct contact. Either way both are legal. No different than a journalist. Further he wanted to testify on it, and have his testimony be public—not closed. He posted on Twitter that his testimony was canceled. That is suspicious and he was disappointed with that. Those accusing him know they got nuthin'. There was also an attempt on his life twice iirc, one with poisoning as well as threats to his family. Also, suspicious. You believe the real criminals.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:19 AM   #101
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Rosenstein whacked Trey upside the head after he finished showboating. That was fun to watch. Thanks.
Was this the way you watched it? That would explain a lot.......

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Old 12-14-2017, 10:20 AM   #103
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FBI officials said Clinton 'has to win' race to White House: NYT

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-offic...044941646.html

(Reuters) - Senior FBI officials who helped probe Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign told a colleague that Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had to win the race to the White House, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.

Peter Strzok, a senior FBI agent, said Clinton "just has to win" in a text sent to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, the Times reported.

The messages showed concern from Strzok and Page that a Trump presidency could politicize the FBI, the report said, citing texts turned over to Congress and obtained by the newspaper. http://nyti.ms/2AOHylP

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is investigating the texts in a probe into FBI's handling of its investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server for official correspondence when she was Secretary of State under former President Barack Obama, the report added.

Strzok was removed from working on the Russia probe after media reports earlier this month suggested he had exchanged text messages that disparaged Trump and supported Clinton.

Strzok was involved in both the Clinton email and Russia investigations.

Republicans, including Trump, have in recent weeks ramped up their attacks on the FBI and questioned its integrity.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller and congressional committees are investigating possible links between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia. Russia denies meddling in the 2016 U.S. elections.

The FBI, the Democratic National Committee and the White House did not respond to a request for comment outside regular business hours.

Reuters was unable to contact Peter Strzok and Lisa Page for comment.
Pretty sure he was removed several months ago. Not recently 'after media reporst'.

Looks like more fake news.
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Old 12-14-2017, 10:20 AM   #104
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FBI officials said Clinton 'has to win' race to White House: NYT

https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-offic...044941646.html

(Reuters) - Senior FBI officials who helped probe Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign told a colleague that Democratic Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had to win the race to the White House, the New York Times reported on Tuesday.

Peter Strzok, a senior FBI agent, said Clinton "just has to win" in a text sent to FBI lawyer Lisa Page, the Times reported.

The messages showed concern from Strzok and Page that a Trump presidency could politicize the FBI, the report said, citing texts turned over to Congress and obtained by the newspaper. http://nyti.ms/2AOHylP

Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz is investigating the texts in a probe into FBI's handling of its investigation into Clinton's use of a private email server for official correspondence when she was Secretary of State under former President Barack Obama, the report added.

Strzok was removed from working on the Russia probe after media reports earlier this month suggested he had exchanged text messages that disparaged Trump and supported Clinton.

Strzok was involved in both the Clinton email and Russia investigations.

Republicans, including Trump, have in recent weeks ramped up their attacks on the FBI and questioned its integrity.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller and congressional committees are investigating possible links between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia. Russia denies meddling in the 2016 U.S. elections.

The FBI, the Democratic National Committee and the White House did not respond to a request for comment outside regular business hours.

Reuters was unable to contact Peter Strzok and Lisa Page for comment.
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I used to be a moderate Republican.


So did Donger
There's no room in the Republican party any more for moderates. The Far Right and the Trump populists have taken over the party. That's why Mitt Romney (who would have been a GREAT President) is disliked by so many Republicans, and it's why so many of us left the party.

The term "moderate Republican" has become an oxymoron, much like the term "conservative Democrat" has. Both parties are completely dominated for extremists. That's why I'll never consider myself a Democrat, even though I have renounced the Republican party.
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