Chiefs Salary Cap numbers. Here's the facts. Now What? - Page 3

**BigRedChief** · 10:19 AM

Player cap numbers from Adam Teicher of the KC Star:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657380.htm

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657983.htm

The Chiefs have 60 players under contract. Only the highest 51 salary-cap numbers are counted against the NFL limit when the league year begins. The total for those 51 players is $98,441,012.

Pos. Player 2007 base salary 2007 salary cap figure*
CB Patrick Surtain $4,650,000 $9,364,375
QB Trent Green $7,200,000 $9,148,808
G Brian Waters $720,000 $5,220,000
CB Ty Law $3,000,000 $5,050,000
OT Willie Roaf $3,500,000 $4,846,904
WR Eddie Kennison $2,150,000 $4,738,333
TE Tony Gonzalez $1,000,000 $4,531,370
LB Kendrell Bell $3,037,500 $4,487,500
DE Eric Hicks $2,900,000 $4,450,000
S Greg Wesley $2,700,000 $3,966,666
C Casey Wiegmann $2,435,000 $3,635,000
DT Ryan Sims $1,901,000 $3,063,202
S Sammy Knight $2,000,000 $2,815,000
RB Priest Holmes $870,000 $2,450,804
RB Larry Johnson $1,900,000 $2,422,854
G Will Shields $1,200,000 $2,272,500
LB Derrick Johnson $665,000 $2,130,000
KR Dante Hall $1,500,000 $1,975,000
S William Bartee $1,400,000 $1,929,168
OL Chris Bober $1,215,000 $1,890,000
T John Welbourn $1,700,000 $1,706,720
DE Tamba Hali $360,000 $1,450,000
RB Michael Bennett $1,200,000 $1,250,000
TE Jason Dunn $770,000 $1,220,000
T Kyle Turley $1,000,000 $1,200,000
T Chris Terry $720,000 $770,000
FB Kris Wilson $510,000 $764,000
S Bernard Pollard $360,000 $625,000
WR Rod Gardner $595,000 $595,000
P Dustin Colquitt $435,000 $575,000
QB Brodie Croyle $360,000 $531,666
LB Boomer Grigsby $435,000 $482,500
DT Brian Howard $435,000 $435,000
T Will Svitek $435,000 $460,434
G Tre Stallings $360,000 $383,750
WR Jeff Webb $360,000 $382,500
S Jarrad Page $360,000 $371,958
CB Michael Bragg $360,000 $360,000
S Robb Butler $360,000 $360,000
WR Chris Hannon $360,000 $360,000
LB William Kershaw $360,000 $360,000
CB Marcus Maxey $360,000 $360,000
C Rudy Niswanger $360,000 $360,000
CB Zach Norton $360,000 $360,000
CB Dimitri Patterson $360,000 $360,000
RB Derrick Ross $360,000 $360,000
DT Tim Sandidge $360,000 $360,000
DT Steve Williams $360,000 $360,000
CB Gabriel Helms $310,000 $310,000
OL Ramiro Pruneda $285,000 $295,000
FB Greg Hanoian $285,000 $285,000
OL Rob Hunt $285,000 $285,000
QB Omar Jacobs $285,000 $285,000
TE Adam Johnson $285,000 $285,000
DE Montez Murphy $285,000 $285,000
CB Justin Phinisee $285,000 $285,000
QB Casey Printers $285,000 $285,000
LB Nick Reid $285,000 $285,000
TE Keith Willis $285,000 $285,000
LB Timi Wusu $285,000 $285,000

* includes various bonuses
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Released players from last year

The Chiefs have salary-cap obligations for 19 players released last year, including some who were later re-signed. The total for those players is $5,824,302.

Pos. Player Salary cap value
S Jerome Woods $2,650,001
DT John Browning $1,200,000
DT Junior Siavii $1,050,000
DT Lional Dalton $750,000
CB Marcus Maxey $82,134
QB Casey Printers $66,667
WR Chris Hannon $3,750
WR Danny Melendez $3,750
DT Alex Guerrero $2,500
CB Chris Johnson $2,500

Pos. Player Salary cap value

LB William Kershaw $2,500
RB Jake Slaughter $1,750
OL Steve Franklin $1,500
RB De’Arrius Howard$1,500
RB McKenzi Smith $1,500
LB Brandon Guillory $1,250
WR Jermaine Jamison $1,250
LB Nick Reid $1,000
TE Bob Docherty $750
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Unsigned players

The following 18 players have no 2007 contract:

DE Jared Allen

OT Jordan Black

RB Dee Brown

FB Ronnie Cruz

DT Ron Edwards

LB Keyaron Fox

LS Kendall Gammon

LB Kris Griffin

QB Damon Huard

LB Kawika Mitchell

WR Samie Parker

DT James Reed

OT Kevin Sampson

CB Benny Sapp

LB Rich Scanlon

Chiefnj · 02-09-2007, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

Salary cap # - base salary = X

X - Base salary = cap savings*

(*if done as a before june 1st cut)

june 1st cuts can be done in a 40/60,50/50 or 60/40 splits

that divides up the cap hit between the current year and the next

Isn't your calculation correct only if it is the final year of the contract? The difference between salary cap# and base# is the amount of bonus this year. If a player has 3 more years left on his contract then it would be 3 times that bonus amount since bonuses are spread out evenly on the length of the contract.

Chiefnj · 02-09-2007, 02:07 PM

Wasn't there another article, maybe even by Teicher, about 2-3 weeks ago that said if the Chiefs cut the 5-6 most likely candidates it would COST them 30 million. Not save, but cost them that money. Anybody remember that?

Pushead2 · 02-09-2007, 02:16 PM

I love the fact we won't be big contenders in FA, I love being a Chief Fan......

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pushead2

I love the fact we won't be big contenders in FA, I love being a Chief Fan......

Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.

Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders

mcan · 02-09-2007, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I wonder how much we save by cutting Sims, Hicks, etc.

We save the WHOLE dollar amount of their base salary and half of the remaining balance (pro-rated bonus). That half will be applied to next years' salary cap though. (like Jerome Woods' bonus counts against us this year).

[EDIT] unless, there are SEVERAL more years remaining on their contract in which case we have to account for the pro-rated portion of the following years as well. [EDIT]

So, if we cut Eric Hicks we instantly save 2.9 million in base and half the leftovers (approx 800K) making a total savings of 3.7 million, and next year we would have an 800K hit against us. I expect this will probably happen since it's a big savings that can be better spent on Allen's new contract.

Cutting Sims saves us about 2.5 Million and next year we would get hit for about 500K.

But there are already some big savings with people that are already gone.

Willie Roaf: 4.2 Million in savings THIS year, and a 600K hit next
William Bartee: 1.6 Million in savings THIS year, and a 200K hit next

Then there are some cool things we can do with restructures on contracts like Surtain's. We can give him a new 4 year deal with a bonus around 9, and a low base for this year and next. Cut a couple million off of his number and keep him around for a few more years. We wouldn't want to restructure Trent because he's in his last year (most likely) and giving him a long contract means TROUBLE next year when we have to cut him and take a big hit for two years. Better for him to get a big check this year and retire. We'll only take a 1 million hit next year and another 1 million hit the following year.

The Chiefs are in GREAT shape going into free agency. Good enough that we might be able to lose a free agent or two and replace them with some big namers. Good enough that Jerrod Allen is going to get a 7 year deal... Hopefully with a clause that includes drinking and driving consequences.

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2007, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcan

We wouldn't want to restructure Trent because he's in his last year (most likely) and giving him a long contract means TROUBLE next year when we have to cut him and take a big hit for two years. Better for him to get a big check this year and retire. We'll only take a 1 million hit next year and another 1 million hit the following year.

Wow, that kinda sucks..especially if hes not the starter in 07...

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders

What? You're kidding right?

Reggie White went to the Packers before free agency started.

Terrel Owens was TRADED to the Eagles. He certainly didn't help the Cowboys.

The only time Deion Sanders was a free agent was with the Redskins and that team finished 8-8.

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

What? You're kidding right?

Reggie White went to the Packers before free agency started.

Terrel Owens was TRADED to the Eagles. He certainly didn't help the Cowboys.

The only time Deion Sanders was a free agent was with the Redskins and that team finished 8-8.

No, Reggie White was the 1st big name free agent in the modern era. 1990- now

TO was traded...your right there.

Deion was a free agent when he went to the Niners and won a ring....then the Cowboys and won a ring...

tk13 · 02-09-2007, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Reggie White

Terrel Owens

Deion Sanders

TO actually didn't help his team in the playoffs...

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

TO actually didn't help his team in the playoffs...

Yea your right.....he was injured that year but came back strong in the SB. He did however play a huge part in helping them win in the regular season.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

No, Reggie White was the 1st big name free agent in the modern era. 1990- now

TO was traded...your right there.

Deion was a free agent when he went to the Niners and won a ring....then the Cowboys and won a ring...

Plan B free agency started after the 1992 season and went on for two years.

Both Reggie White and Deion Sanders were Plan B.

The current free agency system started in 1995. Name someone in the modern era.

htismaqe · 02-09-2007, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Yea your right.....he was injured that year but came back strong in the SB. He did however play a huge part in helping them win in the regular season.

And he was traded for.

If you want to trade for a player, great, I've got no problem with that.

But big name free agents are Fool's Gold.

**noa** · 02-09-2007, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Name the big-name, 1st-day free agents that helped their team in the playoffs.

Name just one.

Was Rich Gannon a 1st-day signing?

**CosmicPal** · 02-09-2007, 02:39 PM

Who the fugg is LB Timi Wusu $285,000 ?

An awful lot of money for someone I didn't know was a Chief.

02-09-2007, 10:13 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3229627 VARSITY	Chiefs Salary Cap numbers. Here's the facts. Now What? Player cap numbers from Adam Teicher of the KC Star: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657380.htm http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansas...s/16657983.htm The Chiefs have 60 players under contract. Only the highest 51 salary-cap numbers are counted against the NFL limit when the league year begins. The total for those 51 players is $98,441,012. Pos. Player 2007 base salary 2007 salary cap figure* CB Patrick Surtain $4,650,000 $9,364,375 QB Trent Green $7,200,000 $9,148,808 G Brian Waters $720,000 $5,220,000 CB Ty Law $3,000,000 $5,050,000 OT Willie Roaf $3,500,000 $4,846,904 WR Eddie Kennison $2,150,000 $4,738,333 TE Tony Gonzalez $1,000,000 $4,531,370 LB Kendrell Bell $3,037,500 $4,487,500 DE Eric Hicks $2,900,000 $4,450,000 S Greg Wesley $2,700,000 $3,966,666 C Casey Wiegmann $2,435,000 $3,635,000 DT Ryan Sims $1,901,000 $3,063,202 S Sammy Knight $2,000,000 $2,815,000 RB Priest Holmes $870,000 $2,450,804 RB Larry Johnson $1,900,000 $2,422,854 G Will Shields $1,200,000 $2,272,500 LB Derrick Johnson $665,000 $2,130,000 KR Dante Hall $1,500,000 $1,975,000 S William Bartee $1,400,000 $1,929,168 OL Chris Bober $1,215,000 $1,890,000 T John Welbourn $1,700,000 $1,706,720 DE Tamba Hali $360,000 $1,450,000 RB Michael Bennett $1,200,000 $1,250,000 TE Jason Dunn $770,000 $1,220,000 T Kyle Turley $1,000,000 $1,200,000 T Chris Terry $720,000 $770,000 FB Kris Wilson $510,000 $764,000 S Bernard Pollard $360,000 $625,000 WR Rod Gardner $595,000 $595,000 P Dustin Colquitt $435,000 $575,000 QB Brodie Croyle $360,000 $531,666 LB Boomer Grigsby $435,000 $482,500 DT Brian Howard $435,000 $435,000 T Will Svitek $435,000 $460,434 G Tre Stallings $360,000 $383,750 WR Jeff Webb $360,000 $382,500 S Jarrad Page $360,000 $371,958 CB Michael Bragg $360,000 $360,000 S Robb Butler $360,000 $360,000 WR Chris Hannon $360,000 $360,000 LB William Kershaw $360,000 $360,000 CB Marcus Maxey $360,000 $360,000 C Rudy Niswanger $360,000 $360,000 CB Zach Norton $360,000 $360,000 CB Dimitri Patterson $360,000 $360,000 RB Derrick Ross $360,000 $360,000 DT Tim Sandidge $360,000 $360,000 DT Steve Williams $360,000 $360,000 CB Gabriel Helms $310,000 $310,000 OL Ramiro Pruneda $285,000 $295,000 FB Greg Hanoian $285,000 $285,000 OL Rob Hunt $285,000 $285,000 QB Omar Jacobs $285,000 $285,000 TE Adam Johnson $285,000 $285,000 DE Montez Murphy $285,000 $285,000 CB Justin Phinisee $285,000 $285,000 QB Casey Printers $285,000 $285,000 LB Nick Reid $285,000 $285,000 TE Keith Willis $285,000 $285,000 LB Timi Wusu $285,000 $285,000 * includes various bonuses --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Released players from last year The Chiefs have salary-cap obligations for 19 players released last year, including some who were later re-signed. The total for those players is $5,824,302. Pos. Player Salary cap value S Jerome Woods $2,650,001 DT John Browning $1,200,000 DT Junior Siavii $1,050,000 DT Lional Dalton $750,000 CB Marcus Maxey $82,134 QB Casey Printers $66,667 WR Chris Hannon $3,750 WR Danny Melendez $3,750 DT Alex Guerrero $2,500 CB Chris Johnson $2,500 Pos. Player Salary cap value LB William Kershaw $2,500 RB Jake Slaughter $1,750 OL Steve Franklin $1,500 RB De’Arrius Howard$1,500 RB McKenzi Smith $1,500 LB Brandon Guillory $1,250 WR Jermaine Jamison $1,250 LB Nick Reid $1,000 TE Bob Docherty $750 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsigned players The following 18 players have no 2007 contract: DE Jared Allen OT Jordan Black RB Dee Brown FB Ronnie Cruz DT Ron Edwards LB Keyaron Fox LS Kendall Gammon LB Kris Griffin QB Damon Huard LB Kawika Mitchell WR Samie Parker DT James Reed OT Kevin Sampson CB Benny Sapp LB Rich Scanlon Last edited by BigRedChief; 02-09-2007 at 10:19 AM..
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