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Old 01-15-2006, 03:46 PM  
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Chevy truck problems????

I have a 1991 Chevy s10 4.3 pickup. It broke down on Friday and it turns over but will not start. I checked to see if there was gas coming out of the injectors, there is. I checked to see if I had a spark, It didnt. So I took out the ignition controle moduler and took it to Advanced Auto Parts and had it checked. The guy said it was bad so I replaced it. Now I have a spark but it still wont start? Im not sure how big of a spark there is supposed to be, but you can see it spark. It almost kicks over at the first but then doesnt even come close. I do not know what is wrong with it and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this problem? I can hear the fuel pump kick on and off. Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
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Old 01-15-2006, 03:50 PM   #2
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I can hear the fuel pump kick on and off.
Are you supposed to hear that? I don't know. I'm asking.

Fuel filter should be cheap to replace.

To run an engine must have fuel, spark, and oxygen. Which one isn't it getting? Answer that and you'll be able to fix your truck.
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Old 01-15-2006, 03:53 PM   #3
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I have a 1991 Chevy s10 4.3 pickup. It broke down on Friday and it turns over but will not start. I checked to see if there was gas coming out of the injectors, there is. I checked to see if I had a spark, It didnt. So I took out the ignition controle moduler and took it to Advanced Auto Parts and had it checked. The guy said it was bad so I replaced it. Now I have a spark but it still wont start? Im not sure how big of a spark there is supposed to be, but you can see it spark. It almost kicks over at the first but then doesnt even come close. I do not know what is wrong with it and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about this problem? I can hear the fuel pump kick on and off. Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
The only thing I can think is that maybe when you were changing the ignition module you might have knocked the timing out of whack. Maybe if you fiddle with the timing a little it will start.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:14 PM   #4
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The only thing I can think is that maybe when you were changing the ignition module you might have knocked the timing out of whack. Maybe if you fiddle with the timing a little it will start.
Well I dont have a timing light or anything and I have no clue how to check that. So if it is that I will have to find someone who knows how. Although I did bust a small line that goes from a part on the motor to a filter that is connected to the map sensor?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:16 PM   #5
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Well I dont have a timing light or anything and I have no clue how to check that. So if it is that I will have to find someone who knows how. Although I did bust a small line that goes from a part on the motor to a filter that is connected to the map sensor?

if the car is fuel injected and computerized you shouldnt need a timing light the timing is done by the computer and you wouldnt have a distribuitor you would just have coil packs
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:19 PM   #6
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Plugs? I'm no expert, but it seems like if the ignition was off they could get fouled pretty quick.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:19 PM   #7
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:19 PM   #8
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if the car is fuel injected and computerized you shouldnt need a timing light the timing is done by the computer and you wouldnt have a distribuitor you would just have coil packs

Yeah its fuel injected. I dont have a computer to do it though.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:20 PM   #9
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Yeah its fuel injected. I dont have a computer to do it though.

Are you saying you have a Distributior or Coil Packs
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:22 PM   #10
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Are you saying you have a Distributior or Coil Packs

I hardly know anything about vehicles. I have a distributor cap, does that count?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:26 PM   #11
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ok so yes you would need a timing light, Have you replaced the plugs/wires? if not is it time?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:29 PM   #12
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Plugs? I'm no expert, but it seems like if the ignition was off they could get fouled pretty quick.

Bingo.

I'd bet you have flooded it. You might pull the plugs and see if they are wet with fuel.
If they are wet then I'd leave them out for awhile and let the plugs dry along with letting the cylinders air out a bit.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:30 PM   #13
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Here is a helpful Link

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/ignition-system.htm
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:53 PM   #14
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This system has a distributor cap and rotor. If it is not fouled plugs, then check the rotor and distributor cap for burning or corrosion. If you rotated the distributor that would affect the timing.

FYI, on my 1990 you had to put the system in timing adjust mode to set the base timing. So, you might want to borrow a timing light after you get it running to check your base timing. The module adjusts spark timing, injector timing and duration from there.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:23 PM   #15
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This system has a distributor cap and rotor. If it is not fouled plugs, then check the rotor and distributor cap for burning or corrosion. If you rotated the distributor that would affect the timing.

FYI, on my 1990 you had to put the system in timing adjust mode to set the base timing. So, you might want to borrow a timing light after you get it running to check your base timing. The module adjusts spark timing, injector timing and duration from there.

I changed the dis.cap, rotor, plugs and wires in probably March. I just now changed a vacuum line that went from something in my motor to some filter that connected to my map sensor. It was busted and still wont start. So I need a timing light then? Hopefully someone I know, knows somebody who has one and knows how to check it.
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