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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

Mile High Mania · 05-24-2010, 07:11 AM

http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2...-by-found.html

Good stuff here... I didn't catch the relationship with what Des did with the light and what Juliette said to Sawyer at the vending machine.

Chiefnj2 · 05-24-2010, 07:15 AM

Why was the island at the bottom of the ocean to start this past season?

Mile High Mania · 05-24-2010, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Why was the island at the bottom of the ocean to start this past season?

I would imagine it was giving a look at the possible future... had Jack not gone back down to replace the large stone. Flocke's goal was to "put the island on the bottom of the ocean". I guess if Jack never full realized 'his role' and did not go back down, Flocke's goal would have been achieved...

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-24-2010, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

That's how I interpreted it.

And I teared-up about every 10 minutes it seemed like. Every frikkin' time they had one of the couples in the alternate world reconnect. Those were all very well done.

Same here. I choked up on more than a few occasions.

Mile High Mania · 05-24-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BCD

Same here. I choked up on more than a few occasions.

I didn't choke up, but the scenes were great... now, for whatever reasons, I thought the end scene with the dog crawling up next to Jack was greatness.

**Baby Lee** · 05-24-2010, 07:46 AM

What was saddest to me was Aaron being an infant in the afterlife. On a positive note, it's an indication that they all didn't die in the 2004 crash, but did he really never get a chance to grow up? Thought there was a li'l rugrat waiting for Kate and Claire to come back. And it wasn't an embodiment so Jack would recognize him as he raised Aaron for 3+ years himself.

Mile High Mania · 05-24-2010, 07:50 AM

We never did hear the real name of MIB...

**CosmicPal** · 05-24-2010, 07:50 AM

I thought it was a good ending. There was redemption, forgiveness, love rediscovered, and the recognition of mortality: Ben apologized to Locke, Richard Alpert discovered his gray hair, Claire and Charlie found each other, as did Rose and Bernard, Jin and Sun, Desmond and Penny, and Sawyer and Juliet. Most importantly, Jack saw his father who told him why it all happened.

The only problems I had with it was the "some people are dead and some people are alive" bit. WTF? Either they should all dead or they are all alive.

The other thing was Ben refusing to go into the church. Is he resorting to his old ways now that everyone found peace? Is he planning on going back to the island to rule it with his old ways of cunning and mischievousness?

I really loved how they had Jack go back to where it all started. Nice ending. And of course, the eye closes...

oldandslow · 05-24-2010, 07:54 AM

I really liked the episode and thought it to be a good ending. Desmond pulling the plug and making Flocke mortal being mirrored at the vending machine by Sawyer and Juliette was some pretty nifty writing.

The ALT was obviously purgatory for all religions (note the stained glass window at the Church) - even those that don't believe in purgatory. The island really does represent hell in some ways - there was even a little devil looking thing on the roof when Dez pulled the plug.

Walking through hell, making choices about right and wrong, battles between good and evil - the show represents us - everyman - as we fight our own wars.

Michael lost his soul. Sayid found his (and Shannon). I think that can tell us more about ourselves than anything else. We can do some pretty awful things, but in the end we can overcome them if we so choose....or not.

Juliette and Sawyer's awakening was wonderful...the exchange between Locke and Ben at the church was really intriguing, and Kate is some yummy eye candy.

What's not to like?

Chiefnj2 · 05-24-2010, 07:59 AM

After all these years how is it that Aaron wasn't important?

**Baby Lee** · 05-24-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

I thought it was a good ending. There was redemption, forgiveness, love rediscovered, and the recognition of mortality: Ben apologized to Locke, Richard Alpert discovered his gray hair, Claire and Charlie found each other, as did Rose and Bernard, Jin and Sun, Desmond and Penny, and Sawyer and Juliet. Most importantly, Jack saw his father who told him why it all happened.

The only problems I had with it was the "some people are dead and some people are alive" bit. WTF? Either they should all dead or they are all alive.

The other thing was Ben refusing to go into the church. Is he resorting to his old ways now that everyone found peace? Is he planning on going back to the island to rule it with his old ways of cunning and mischievousness?

I really loved how they had Jack go back to where it all started. Nice ending. And of course, the eye closes...

The Island wasn't purgatory, the Flash Sideways was. The people who died in the story, died in the story. Those who didn't went on to live lives of different duration in stories not shown. For example, Hurley and Ben went on to protect the island for a period as the show stated [you WERE a great #1, and you WERE a great #2]. Eventually, all of them passed on, and it came to Desmond to round them up in purgatory/sideways, and get them to realize that they'd lived another life and move on to 'elsewhere' on the other side of the church doors.

What's kind of disappointing, though, is that all of those epiphanies, all those happy reunions, were for spectral remains, not people on the verge of a reunited life, rather an reunited afterlife. Who knows if in this world if they ever saw each other again.

Bump · 05-24-2010, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

The Island wasn't purgatory, the Flash Sideways was. The people who died in the story, died in the story. Those who didn't went on to live lives of different duration in stories not shown. For example, Hurley and Ben went on to protect the island for a period as the show stated [you WERE a great #1, and you WERE a great #2]. Eventually, all of them passed on, and it came to Desmond to round them up in purgatory/sideways, and get them to realize that they'd lived another life and move on to 'elsewhere' on the other side of the church doors.

What's kind of disappointing, though, is that all of those epiphanies, all those happy reunions, were for spectral remains, not people on the verge of a reunited life, rather a reunited afterlife. Who knows if in this world if they ever saw each other again.

PFYP

KingPriest2 · 05-24-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Everyone that's posted saw a different finale than I did.

JACK WAS JACOB.

The ENTIRE series was in Jack's mind.

Jack touched Rose. And Locke. And Desmond. And so on.

Jack's father died.

Jack was dead. On the island.

He wasn't saved by the island and there was no "purgatory".

Everything happened in the split second that flight 815 crashed.

THAT is why there is no explanation for the crash, EMT, Smoke Monster, etc.

It was all in the mind of Jack, just before he died.

They all died. It was Jack's fantasy.

This is not the case. Sorry even Darlton said so Another thing did you miss what is father said to him at the end? People dying before him and after him? Darlton gave a hint a awhile back THINK MATRIX

Everything happened on the island was real.

KingPriest2 · 05-24-2010, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

After all these years how is it that Aaron wasn't important?

He wasnt The physic was exposed as a fraud. Darlton brought that up recently

patteeu · 05-24-2010, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

No it wasn't. I am cool with people having their opinions, but to be honest with you, anyone who believes this doesn't really get the show.

Dane, you seem like a cool guy and all, but I think you are 100% wrong here.

I will say though that a lot of people in this thread will just go with whatever you say, at least thats what it seems like.

You are like Jacob in a way...

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Mile High Mania #triggering Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Tejas Casino cash: $3727229	http://theoriesonlost.blogspot.com/2...-by-found.html Good stuff here... I didn't catch the relationship with what Des did with the light and what Juliette said to Sawyer at the vending machine. __________________
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05-24-2010, 07:50 AM	#5557
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CosmicPal Learn it. Know it. Live it. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Casino cash: $10004900	SPOILER! If You Have NOT seen the final episode, do NOT read this! I thought it was a good ending. There was redemption, forgiveness, love rediscovered, and the recognition of mortality: Ben apologized to Locke, Richard Alpert discovered his gray hair, Claire and Charlie found each other, as did Rose and Bernard, Jin and Sun, Desmond and Penny, and Sawyer and Juliet. Most importantly, Jack saw his father who told him why it all happened. The only problems I had with it was the "some people are dead and some people are alive" bit. WTF? Either they should all dead or they are all alive. The other thing was Ben refusing to go into the church. Is he resorting to his old ways now that everyone found peace? Is he planning on going back to the island to rule it with his old ways of cunning and mischievousness? I really loved how they had Jack go back to where it all started. Nice ending. And of course, the eye closes... __________________ - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - * - Four blessings upon my fellow planeteers: Older whiskey, younger women, faster horses, and more money.
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05-24-2010, 07:54 AM	#5559
oldandslow Veteran Join Date: Apr 2004 Casino cash: $5573149	I really liked the episode and thought it to be a good ending. Desmond pulling the plug and making Flocke mortal being mirrored at the vending machine by Sawyer and Juliette was some pretty nifty writing. The ALT was obviously purgatory for all religions (note the stained glass window at the Church) - even those that don't believe in purgatory. The island really does represent hell in some ways - there was even a little devil looking thing on the roof when Dez pulled the plug. Walking through hell, making choices about right and wrong, battles between good and evil - the show represents us - everyman - as we fight our own wars. Michael lost his soul. Sayid found his (and Shannon). I think that can tell us more about ourselves than anything else. We can do some pretty awful things, but in the end we can overcome them if we so choose....or not. Juliette and Sawyer's awakening was wonderful...the exchange between Locke and Ben at the church was really intriguing, and Kate is some yummy eye candy. What's not to like?
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05-24-2010, 07:59 AM	#5560
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