The fact that no one has been fired

[Dante84]

means that they are purposely trolling the league for the first pick, and everyone is in on it.

At the end of the season, Romeo will retire. Pioli brings in a new coach, buying himself 2 years with a rookie qb and the new staff, and Hunt lets fat Scott ride out the contract extension that he foolishly offered before the season began.

These are my concerns.

[Sorter]

Chiefs=Suh
Fans=Schaub

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Or Stanzi may just not be a good NFL QB. If you can't beat out Quinn or Cassel...I'm not saying I wouldn't want to give him a chance, but he should have seen the field with a 1-10 team. If for nothing else, just seeing if something...ANYTHING works.

You're absolutely right, the Chiefs never draft QB's in the 1st. But I think with the recent success of some rookie QB's, combined with the lack of ANY shred of hope at the QB position since Green went down, the fanbase (even the complete idiots) will give a 1st rd draft pick the time they need to acclimate to the NFL. They have tried drafting DL in the 1st and have been met with nothing but failure.

I'm hopeful that the ungodly amount of sucktitude this team has fielded this season, will give reason to fire Pioli/Crennel/Daboll, hire a solid GM/HC/OC that breaks the cycle, drafts the 1st RD QB that we desperately need, and overhaul the team and immediately puts them back on track to where they should be.

If they don't, and we start next season with Pioli, a minion HC, and a re-tread QB, I'll be convinced, once and for all, that Clark doesn't have any desire to field a quality team.

It is really irritating that the Cards have already started playing Lindley and we've had Stanzi for 2 years and have no idea how he looks like in a game.

[Mr. Laz]

it's riskier to trade down from the #1 pick than it is to just stay put and take the best player available.

It would be a huge splash/risk to pass on QB's at #1 and trade down or take a non-QB.

Chiefs are conservative

They might take the QB with the highest floor instead of the highest ceiling but i just don't see them passing on a QB.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Pointless now. As long as it's done shortly after the season.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

Or Stanzi may just not be a good NFL QB. If you can't beat out Quinn or Cassel...I'm not saying I wouldn't want to give him a chance, but he should have seen the field with a 1-10 team. If for nothing else, just seeing if something...ANYTHING works.

Stanzi not being a good NFL QB is still an upgrade to the Cassel debacle we have been tortured with for four ****ing years. Nobody except Tyler Palko is that bad.
Bottom line, if they trotted Stanzi out there it would signal two things. They have no faith in their failed retreads any longer, and two they have thrown in the towel for the season, thus admitting failure. They are too ****ing arrogant to do this.

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

You're absolutely right, the Chiefs never draft QB's in the 1st. But I think with the recent success of some rookie QB's, combined with the lack of ANY shred of hope at the QB position since Green went down, the fanbase (even the complete idiots) will give a 1st rd draft pick the time they need to acclimate to the NFL. They have tried drafting DL in the 1st and have been met with nothing but failure.

We can only hope that they see the light. Following the Browns model of all of those first round DL sure hasn't worked.

Originally Posted by PhillyChiefFan

I'm hopeful that the ungodly amount of sucktitude this team has fielded this season, will give reason to fire Pioli/Crennel/Daboll, hire a solid GM/HC/OC that breaks the cycle, drafts the 1st RD QB that we desperately need, and overhaul the team and immediately puts them back on track to where they should be.

If they don't, and we start next season with Pioli, a minion HC, and a re-tread QB, I'll be convinced, once and for all, that Clark doesn't have any desire to field a quality team.

Yep, no doubt. The part that bothers me going forward, is they have a history of repeating the same mistakes hoping for different results.

Originally Posted by Sorter

Chiefs=Suh
Fans=Schaub

Succinct

[Sorter]

^^^I thought it was applicable.

[Mile High Mania]

I honestly think that KC can go a long ways towards fixing their issues by hiring Andy Reid if and when he's released from PHI.

Honestly, like Shanahan - I think it would serve him good to take a year off from coaching. 14 years in PHI is a long time and he could very well use the break, considering everything that has gone on in his life.

That being said... if he's ready to immediately start over, I say you go get him as well as a GM like the guy from SF (Vangio or something, I forget). Go get a GM that is strong and creative, someone that will work with Reid and whichever OC & DC he hires.

I think you need creative young minds at the GM and Scouting level - but, you need hard nosed leadership at HC. Reid brings that and you focus on that elusive brass ring for KC - the franchise QB. It may or may not be in this draft class, but look what Reid did with McNabb.

Is there someone like that in this Draft? Possibly... but, you need to bring in a veteran QB to add balance, not a horrific castoff, but someone who can produce adequately while the rookie prepares. Based on recent drafts, rookies have done well more often than not early on.

If Hunt really wants to right this ship... I think you laser focus on Reid, if and only if you get a young GM with something to prove, and you really focus on fixing that QB spot.

KC has lots of building blocks in place at other positions... but, you obviously need a new focus on QB and from a leadership, strategy and focus perspective - the franchise needs an adrenaline shot to the heart. I think Reid is that guy - he fits the style that works in KC and he fits the tradition of the team in my mind. And, not just because he's a fat dude with a stache that likely loves BBQ.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Laz

it's riskier to trade down from the #1 pick than it is to just stay put and take the best player available.

It would be a huge splash/risk to pass on QB's at #1 and trade down or take a non-QB.

Chiefs are conservative

They might take the QB with the highest floor instead of the highest ceiling but i just don't see them passing on a QB.

With the rookie salary slotting now, they should have ample opportunities to trade the pick.

I hope like heck that they don't but if they can come up with two picks, it would not surprise me.

Especially if they think they could get Aaron Murray later, or someone similar.

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I honestly think that KC can go a long ways towards fixing their issues by hiring Andy Reid if and when he's released from PHI.

Honestly, like Shanahan - I think it would serve him good to take a year off from coaching. 14 years in PHI is a long time and he could very well use the break, considering everything that has gone on in his life.

That being said... if he's ready to immediately start over, I say you go get him as well as a GM like the guy from SF (Vangio or something, I forget). Go get a GM that is strong and creative, someone that will work with Reid and whichever OC & DC he hires.

I think you need creative young minds at the GM and Scouting level - but, you need hard, walrus tusked leadership at HC. Reid brings that and you focus on that elusive brass ring for KC - the franchise QB. It may or may not be in this draft class, but look what Reid did with McNabb.

Is there someone like that in this Draft? Possibly... but, you need to bring in a veteran QB to add balance, not a horrific castoff, but someone who can produce adequately while the rookie prepares. Based on recent drafts, rookies have done well more often than not early on.

If Hunt really wants to right this ship... I think you laser focus on Reid, if and only if you get a young GM with something to prove, and you really focus on fixing that QB spot.

KC has lots of building blocks in place at other positions... but, you obviously need a new focus on QB and from a leadership, strategy and focus perspective - the franchise needs an adrenaline shot to the heart. I think Reid is that guy - he fits the style that works in KC and he fits the tradition of the team in my mind. And, not just because he's a fat dude with a stache that likely loves BBQ.

Fixed

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

With the rookie salary slotting now, they should have ample opportunities to trade the pick.

I hope like heck that they don't but if they can come up with two picks, it would not surprise me.

Especially if they think they could get Aaron Murray later, or someone similar.

If the Chiefs pass on a QB, when they are in such dire need, and the top QB prospect goes on to have success the Chiefs would play the fool FOR YEARS to come. Each time the Chiefs lost and Smith/Barkley won an announcer would bring up 'The chiefs had a chance to draft ....'

in fact, Geno Smith, Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson might ALL be used to talk shit about the Chiefs choice if they have the #1 pick.

The only way the Chiefs could avoid it would be to acquire a legit veteran QB before the draft so they didn't have the QB pressure. But even then it would only lesser the embarrassment a little, unless they win significantly with the veteran QB.

The Hunt family cares about not being embarrassed more than anything except making money. I still think Carl Peterson was fired as much for the 'Monday Night Meltdown' as he was not winning games.

Hunt families top priorities

1. make money
Pioli has done an excellent A+ job. He's made the Hunt family 100-200 million dollars since he got here.

2. Prestige (Don't embarrass the family)
Pioli was fine until this year. The most effective part of the fans rebellion was the media embarrassment it created. The not ever having a lead in a game was an issue too.

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+ big space here ......... the rest are considered bonus objectives imo +
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3. win games
Not nearly as important to the Hunts as it is the fans but winning games is tied to #1 and #2, so it makes the list (Pioli is 22-37 i think)

4. win a super bowl
vanity reasons for the Hunts more than anything imo ... if would be a feather in their hat.

5. Hire respected coaches
6. acquire a star QB

#5 and #6 are on the list only because they help towards the other priorities. Note it says 'respected' and 'star' not a great ... appearances are huge.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Laz

If the Chiefs pass on a QB, when they are in such dire need, and the top QB prospect goes on to have success the Chiefs would play the fool FOR YEARS to come. Each time the Chiefs lost and Smith/Barkley won an announcer would bring up 'The chiefs had a chance to draft ....'

in fact, Geno Smith, Matt Barkley and Tyler Wilson might ALL be used to talk shit about the Chiefs choice if they have the #1 pick.

The only way the Chiefs could avoid it would be to acquire a legit veteran QB before the draft so they didn't have the QB pressure. But even then it would only lesser the embarrassment a little, unless they win significantly with the veteran QB.

The Hunt family cares about not being embarrassed more than anything except making money. I still think Carl Peterson was fired as much for the 'Monday Night Meltdown' as he was not winning games.

Hunt families top priorities

1. make money
Pioli has done an excellent A+ job. He's made the Hunt family 100-200 million dollars since he got here.

2. Prestige (Don't embarrass the family)
Pioli was fine until this year. The most effective part of the fans rebellion was the media embarrassment it created. The not ever having a lead in a game was an issue too.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ big space here ......... the rest are considered bonus objectives imo +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

3. win games
Not nearly as important to the Hunts as it is the fans but winning games is tied to #1 and #2, so it makes the list (Pioli is 22-37 i think)

4. win a super bowl
vanity reasons for the Hunts more than anything imo ... if would be a feather in their hat.

5. Hire respected coaches
6. acquire a star QB

#5 and #6 are on the list only because they help towards the other priorities. Note it says 'respected' and 'star' not a great ... appearances are huge.

Good post Laz, I agree. We need them to dust off 4 , 5 and 6.