NY Post: Jets closing in on compensation deal with Chiefs

**chefsos** · 01-06-2006, 03:28 AM

This is beginning to get really nasty.
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http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/59997.htm

By MARK CANNIZZARO

January 6, 2006 -- Calamity, as always, reigns at Weeb Ewbank Hall.

But that's the way it always is with the Jets, New York's other football team, who now are in serious jeopardy of becoming the butt of league-wide jokes again the way they were during the Coslet-Carroll-Kotite gory years.

Uncertainty, acrimony and spin doctoring have engulfed the Jets' facility and now there is back-stabbing taking place, according to sources inside the building, where people have been walking on egg shells of late.

The uncertainty has stemmed from the fact that the Chiefs, according to team sources, halted draft-pick compensation negotiations with the Jets for Herman Edwards' services all day yesterday before finally agreeing to re-open them last night, leaving the possibility that today he could be named as the new head coach of the Chiefs.

The Chiefs' initial balking left the Jets in a lurch, faced with the possibility of Kansas City not going after Edwards.

That would leave Edwards, who has two years remaining on his contract, still the Jets' coach. That, according to team sources in the know, isn't what owner Woody Johnson wants anymore.

The source said that Johnson was so angry Wednesday with the negotiations faltering that he blurted out, "They can just have him."

What truly appears to be taking place between the Chiefs and Jets is a good, old-fashioned derriere-kicking by Kansas City president Carl Peterson on Jet GM Terry Bradway, who used to work for Peterson.

The mentor seems to be schooling the protege, playing the Jets' bluff and testing their lack of leverage since he now knows the team and Edwards appear to be at the point of no return because of the acrimony that has surfaced.

One team source said he heard one insidious plan the Jets are prepared to enact is, out of spite, holding Edwards to his contract until all of the vacant NFL jobs are filled and then firing him. At that point, the source said, they would interview their three coordinators — Mike Heimerdinger (offense), Donnie Henderson (defense) and Mike Westhoff (special teams) — for the job and Edwards would have no team to coach.

Reports have the Chiefs trying to toss the Jets a fourth- and/or fifth-round draft pick for Edwards' services, which is an utter insult, not to mention larceny.

There, too, seems to be some back-stabbing on the part of Bradway, who according to sources inside the building, hasn't even been keeping Edwards apprised of the goings on, never even asking Edwards whether he wants to stay or go.

Edwards, in fact, spoke to some of his assistants yesterday and said, to paraphrase, that he's "sorry" things have come to this, that the Jets could have squashed all of this Kansas City talk by simply saying they want him to remain a Jet, that they're "going on speculation" that he would want to leave.

"No one ever asked me what I want to do," Edwards said to his assistants, who are off for the next 10 days.

There's been an unspoken chasm between Edwards and Bradway, and unfortunately for Edwards, it's Bradway who has the owner's ear. That's why this mess regarding Edwards and the Jets has been methodically spun so that Edwards looks like the bad guy, the guy trying to land a contract extension and a raise.

To that, Edwards' agent, Gary O'Hagan, told The Post emphatically last night: "We have not made any contract demands. Herm is paid in the bottom quartile of coaches in the league, but we have not made any contract demands nor have we made any trade demands. They're trying to trade him. Why would we ask for an extension when they're trying to trade him?"

tk13 · 01-06-2006, 03:35 AM

Don't mess with Carl.

HMc · 01-06-2006, 03:41 AM

Give them the pick already Carl, you're only gonna waste it on a dud anyway.

tk13 · 01-06-2006, 03:51 AM

No way! By the time Carl's done, he'll have the Jets giving US draft picks!

HMc · 01-06-2006, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

No way! By the time Carl's done, he'll have the Jets giving US draft picks!

Obviously you're joking, however there is a part of the article that i don't understand, and i'm tipping that you do. The suggestion that Carl has the NY GM over the coals - if Carl is holding out and won't give em what they want - why don't they stick it up him, and fire Herm, and make Carl compete with the other teams seeking a new coach? I realise something is better than nothing (for the Jets), but there must be an incentive for Carl to get this deal done aswell, yes? (i.e. that he doesn't have to get Herm from the open market)

tk13 · 01-06-2006, 04:11 AM

I really think Carl would pay more money, than give up a draft choice. We've never been too shy to pay coaches.

Herm and Carl being such good friends doesn't hurt either. There is a risk in letting him out in the open market though, I guess. That would really depend on what Carl and Herm have actually said to each other in the past too.

splatbass · 01-06-2006, 06:12 AM

I wouldn't worry that much about him being on the open market for a couple of reasons. First, he and Peterson are friends, and I think he would want to go to the Chiefs for that reason. Second, the Chiefs have by far the best team of the teams looking for a coach. If you are a head coach which job would you rather take, the 10-6 Chiefs or the Lions or Texans?

I believe if they fire Edwards and he goes on the open market he will be ours.

kcxiv · 01-06-2006, 06:13 AM

Yep, i dont think Carl will have any problems paying Herm a little bit more and save draft picks.

jidar · 01-06-2006, 07:30 AM

This is classic Peterson.
Nobody does this better than him, and he's schooling the Jets here.

chagrin · 01-06-2006, 07:46 AM

Is Herm Edwards truly worth a 1st and 2nd?

Jon Gruden truly turned the Date Rapers around, did Herm do that in NY? 3rd and a 4th seems about right. We know they don't want him, and KC shouldn't give them any more than a 3rd and 4th. Why, just because he's in a contract that they don't want him in - we should hand over our future? No friggin way. Let them sweat.

**ptlyon** · 01-06-2006, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefsos

"No one ever asked me what I want to do," Edwards said to his assistants, who are off for the next 10 days.

If Peterson hasn't asked him if he wants to be the Chiefs head coach, then this is really stupid.

splatbass · 01-06-2006, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon

If Peterson hasn't asked him if he wants to be the Chiefs head coach, then this is really stupid.

Peterson can't ask him until he gets permission from the Jets.

StcChief · 01-06-2006, 09:07 AM

Stall it out. Chiefs have the upper hand on this one.

Peterson is a hero if he gets Edwards and keeps draft picks....

Bradway will end up getting fired when it's over.

01-06-2006, 03:28 AM	Topic Starter
chefsos Fifty eight sixty two... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Felton, DE Casino cash: $8527676	NY Post: Jets closing in on compensation deal with Chiefs This is beginning to get really nasty. ````````````````````````````````````````````` http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/59997.htm By MARK CANNIZZARO January 6, 2006 -- Calamity, as always, reigns at Weeb Ewbank Hall. But that's the way it always is with the Jets, New York's other football team, who now are in serious jeopardy of becoming the butt of league-wide jokes again the way they were during the Coslet-Carroll-Kotite gory years. Uncertainty, acrimony and spin doctoring have engulfed the Jets' facility and now there is back-stabbing taking place, according to sources inside the building, where people have been walking on egg shells of late. The uncertainty has stemmed from the fact that the Chiefs, according to team sources, halted draft-pick compensation negotiations with the Jets for Herman Edwards' services all day yesterday before finally agreeing to re-open them last night, leaving the possibility that today he could be named as the new head coach of the Chiefs. The Chiefs' initial balking left the Jets in a lurch, faced with the possibility of Kansas City not going after Edwards. That would leave Edwards, who has two years remaining on his contract, still the Jets' coach. That, according to team sources in the know, isn't what owner Woody Johnson wants anymore. The source said that Johnson was so angry Wednesday with the negotiations faltering that he blurted out, "They can just have him." What truly appears to be taking place between the Chiefs and Jets is a good, old-fashioned derriere-kicking by Kansas City president Carl Peterson on Jet GM Terry Bradway, who used to work for Peterson. The mentor seems to be schooling the protege, playing the Jets' bluff and testing their lack of leverage since he now knows the team and Edwards appear to be at the point of no return because of the acrimony that has surfaced. One team source said he heard one insidious plan the Jets are prepared to enact is, out of spite, holding Edwards to his contract until all of the vacant NFL jobs are filled and then firing him. At that point, the source said, they would interview their three coordinators — Mike Heimerdinger (offense), Donnie Henderson (defense) and Mike Westhoff (special teams) — for the job and Edwards would have no team to coach. Reports have the Chiefs trying to toss the Jets a fourth- and/or fifth-round draft pick for Edwards' services, which is an utter insult, not to mention larceny. There, too, seems to be some back-stabbing on the part of Bradway, who according to sources inside the building, hasn't even been keeping Edwards apprised of the goings on, never even asking Edwards whether he wants to stay or go. Edwards, in fact, spoke to some of his assistants yesterday and said, to paraphrase, that he's "sorry" things have come to this, that the Jets could have squashed all of this Kansas City talk by simply saying they want him to remain a Jet, that they're "going on speculation" that he would want to leave. "No one ever asked me what I want to do," Edwards said to his assistants, who are off for the next 10 days. There's been an unspoken chasm between Edwards and Bradway, and unfortunately for Edwards, it's Bradway who has the owner's ear. That's why this mess regarding Edwards and the Jets has been methodically spun so that Edwards looks like the bad guy, the guy trying to land a contract extension and a raise. To that, Edwards' agent, Gary O'Hagan, told The Post emphatically last night: "We have not made any contract demands. Herm is paid in the bottom quartile of coaches in the league, but we have not made any contract demands nor have we made any trade demands. They're trying to trade him. Why would we ask for an extension when they're trying to trade him?"
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01-06-2006, 03:35 AM	#2
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01-06-2006, 03:51 AM	#4
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2072500	No way! By the time Carl's done, he'll have the Jets giving US draft picks!
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01-06-2006, 04:11 AM	#6
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2072500	I really think Carl would pay more money, than give up a draft choice. We've never been too shy to pay coaches. Herm and Carl being such good friends doesn't hurt either. There is a risk in letting him out in the open market though, I guess. That would really depend on what Carl and Herm have actually said to each other in the past too.
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01-06-2006, 06:12 AM	#7
splatbass MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI Casino cash: $6730560	I wouldn't worry that much about him being on the open market for a couple of reasons. First, he and Peterson are friends, and I think he would want to go to the Chiefs for that reason. Second, the Chiefs have by far the best team of the teams looking for a coach. If you are a head coach which job would you rather take, the 10-6 Chiefs or the Lions or Texans? I believe if they fire Edwards and he goes on the open market he will be ours.
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kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8807996	Yep, i dont think Carl will have any problems paying Herm a little bit more and save draft picks.
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01-06-2006, 09:07 AM	#13
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Stall it out. Chiefs have the upper hand on this one. Peterson is a hero if he gets Edwards and keeps draft picks.... Bradway will end up getting fired when it's over. __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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