Game of Thrones (spoiler-free zone)

[keg in kc]

A few have suggested it, might as well test the waters. The idea is to give people who haven't read the books a safe place to talk about the show.

A few quick ground rules:

• No Spoilers!!!!! for upcoming episodes.
• Larger Song of Ice and Fire discussion should be limited to the other thread although I think a tiny bit of book delving to fill in holes should be okay (example of this would be talking about Catelyn and her treatment of the wolves in the novel, which was alluded to on TV but never really made clear...)
• Everything that happened that week is fair game once an episode airs. So if you don't watch on Sunday night, I'd stay outta here until you do...

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fishpicker

Tywin does not like Tyrion

But does he not like him enough to scapegoat him for this? If so, Jaime may be Tyrion's last political ally left (and Jaime hates playing that game).

[RINGLEADER]

Seems like it was the fool (he gives the Stark girl some satisfaction of taking him out in the same way Rob went out - at a wedding). Also frees her from Tyrian if he loses his head.

But wouldn't surprise me if the Queen Regent wasn't quite ready to relinquish her power - she gets to stay in power and trades Joffrey for Tyrion.

[GloucesterChief]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

But does he not like him enough to scapegoat him for this? If so, Jaime may be Tyrion's last political ally left (and Jaime hates playing that game).

I don't think so. Ideally if it was Tywin he would try and pin it on Oberyn but I don't know if he knew about Oberyn's vendetta until he met him at the reception. I doubt that Tyrion would tell him about it. There was no one representing Stannis or Balon at the wedding to pin the blame on either.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Seems like it was the fool (he gives the Stark girl some satisfaction of taking him out in the same way Rob went out - at a wedding). Also frees her from Tyrian if he loses his head.

Dontos definitely looked to have been in on whatever it was.

[Fishpicker]

oh yeah the fool. he gave Sansa the necklace in the garden. Earlier, Lady Tyrell threw a necklace over her shoulder and into the garden below

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

I don't think so. Ideally if it was Tywin he would try and pin it on Oberyn but I don't know if he knew about Oberyn's vendetta until he met him at the reception. I doubt that Tyrion would tell him about it. There was no one representing Stannis or Balon at the wedding to pin the blame on either.

It's true, scapegoating Tyrion for this would not make the Lannister family look good.

[KcMizzou]

Oberyn wouldn't stoop to poison. He'd want to let you know he's going to kill you, and do it face to face.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Oberyn wouldn't stoop to poison. He'd want to let you know he's going to kill you, and do it face to face.

Yeah, I got that impression from last episode.

[Fishpicker]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It's true, scapegoating Tyrion for this would not make the Lannister family look good.

to whom would it look bad? the Lannisters already have a bad reputation.

[RINGLEADER]

Watched it again just now - Sansa puts something in the goblet. I would presume she got the poison from the fool which is why he said what he said.

Kills him at a wedding - how fitting...

[AndChiefs]

I love this thread and all the theories.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Fishpicker

to whom would it look bad? the Lannisters already have a bad reputation.

I guess an even worse reputation.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Watched it again just now - Sansa puts something in the goblet. I would presume she got the poison from the fool which is why he said what he said.



Kills him at a wedding - how fitting...

I'm about to rewatch it, but didn't Tyrion hand the goblet, empty, back to Joffrey, then Joffrey told him to fill it?

Wouldn't he have been able to see if something was in there? At least something that could kill him that violently, that fast?

I can't remember the guys name (Lord Arryn maybe) who was poisoned in the beginning of the show, but he had a longer drawn out death if I remember.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

Watched it again just now - Sansa puts something in the goblet. I would presume she got the poison from the fool which is why he said what he said.

Kills him at a wedding - how fitting...

You sure? I didn't see that. It would be awesome if she was involved, but I'd be surprised if she had the guts.

[The Franchise]

God damnt I hate Shae. I especially hate how they make her into something she isn't in the books.