Chiefs Alex Smith vs. Trent Green

bobbything · 11:08 AM

Who was the better QB? Adding pole.

Alex Smith
67.6% completion

17,608 passing yards
102/33 TD to INT

3522 passing YPY
232 Passing YPG

21/7 TD to INT PY
1.3/0.4 TD to INT PG

50-26 overall record
1-4 playoff record

Trent Green
62% completion

20,117 passing yards
111/76 TD to INT

4023 passing YPY
251 Passing YPG

22/15 TD to INT PY
1.46/0.95 TD to INT PG

44-36 overall record
0-1 playoff record

Deberg_1990 · 10-23-2018, 11:10 AM

Give me Alex Smith any day of the week.

Better all around athlete.

Chiefspants · 10-23-2018, 11:11 AM

I think our rash of retread QB's has caused a lot of people to look back at Trent's time in a negative light - but he was almost everything you could want in a quarterback. He wasn't afraid to sling it, he was a leader on the sidelines, and he was smart. Pat is the first QB since Trent's time who's willing to take the necessary risks for us to win - and Pat has the arm strength that Trent lacked to hit tight windows and chuck it long (as well as actual #1 Wideouts that Trent never had).

Question: What was Trent's YPA? I think that could be a key thing to compare with Alex here (and also show me if I'm mis-remembering Trent's effectiveness)

My impression with Trent was that while he would throw his share of INT's, those would come from taking the chances that we see Mahomes take every Sunday. Many times Trent would just need to put too much air under the ball to hit the tight windows that Pat does with ease.

The 2003 playoff loss is a real outlier from our traditional January disappointment. Trent was a balla that day and could not have played any better - unfortunately for him our defense forgot to take the field and Priest's fumble coupled with the missed FG proved to be too much to overcome.

You da best, Trent.

carcosa · 10-23-2018, 11:11 AM

Trent. He wasn't a COWARD.

threebag · 10-23-2018, 11:13 AM

That line Trent had was best maybe ever.

Deberg_1990 · 10-23-2018, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants

What was Trent's YPA?

My impression with Trent was that while he would throw his share of INT's, those would come from taking the chances that we see Mahomes take every Sunday. Many times Trent would just need to put too much air under the ball to hit the tight windows that Pat does with ease.

The 2003 playoff loss is a real outlier from our traditional January disappointment. Trent was a balla that day and could not have played any better - unfortunately for him our defense forgot to take the field and Priest's fumble coupled with the missed FG proved to be too much to overcome.

I remember Trent throwing alot of Red Zone INTs or pick sixes which would cost us points/games.

Chiefspants · 10-23-2018, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by threebag02

That line Trent had was best maybe ever.

Strangely, our line looks pretty elite this year. I wonder what changed from last year?

Dayze · 10-23-2018, 11:15 AM

I don't think we threw it as much back then.
I wouldn't either with our OL and Priest etc; the toss sweep and stretch runs, and screens were a thing of beauty.

Frazod · 10-23-2018, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

Trent. He wasn't a COWARD.

THIS. Trent wanted to win. Alice wanted to keep his completion percentage up.

Pablo · 10-23-2018, 11:15 AM

If you're voting Alice on this, consider killing yourself.

Dayze · 10-23-2018, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod

THIS. Trent wanted to win. Alice wanted to keep his completion percentage up.

That.

Alex is Matt Cassel + more mobility and less INTs.

nothing more, nothing less.

Why Not? · 10-23-2018, 11:21 AM

Who cares? Give me PMII over both of em any day.

SuperBowl4 · 10-23-2018, 11:21 AM

what is the concussion comparison?

Chiefspants · 10-23-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Better all around athlete.

This isn't wrong, and I actually think their arm strength was very similar.

But in clutch time, I'm taking 02-05 Trent every time.

Dayze · 10-23-2018, 11:29 AM

not a good look for a former #1 overall pick where it took 10 + years for everything to 'click' (and that's being generous); compared to an 8th rounder on his 3rd NFL team.

Gimme Trent. at least he looked downfield and could make it through more than 1 read on his progressions before bailing on the play to the outlet. and Trent was a competitor. Alex looked like he didn't give a flying rip either way if we won or lost. Just protect that ball and keep the completion % up there.

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10-23-2018, 11:05 AM
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8944900	Alex Smith vs. Trent Green Who was the better QB? Adding pole. Alex Smith 67.6% completion 17,608 passing yards 102/33 TD to INT 3522 passing YPY 232 Passing YPG 21/7 TD to INT PY 1.3/0.4 TD to INT PG 50-26 overall record 1-4 playoff record Trent Green 62% completion 20,117 passing yards 111/76 TD to INT 4023 passing YPY 251 Passing YPG 22/15 TD to INT PY 1.46/0.95 TD to INT PG 44-36 overall record 0-1 playoff record Last edited by bobbything; 10-23-2018 at 11:08 AM.. Reason: Edit to add that I didn't include Green's truncated 2006 season—just to keep the number of seasons equal.
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Chiefspants World's Best Boss Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bronco Country Casino cash: $5654654	I think our rash of retread QB's has caused a lot of people to look back at Trent's time in a negative light - but he was almost everything you could want in a quarterback. He wasn't afraid to sling it, he was a leader on the sidelines, and he was smart. Pat is the first QB since Trent's time who's willing to take the necessary risks for us to win - and Pat has the arm strength that Trent lacked to hit tight windows and chuck it long (as well as actual #1 Wideouts that Trent never had). Question: What was Trent's YPA? I think that could be a key thing to compare with Alex here (and also show me if I'm mis-remembering Trent's effectiveness) My impression with Trent was that while he would throw his share of INT's, those would come from taking the chances that we see Mahomes take every Sunday. Many times Trent would just need to put too much air under the ball to hit the tight windows that Pat does with ease. The 2003 playoff loss is a real outlier from our traditional January disappointment. Trent was a balla that day and could not have played any better - unfortunately for him our defense forgot to take the field and Priest's fumble coupled with the missed FG proved to be too much to overcome. You da best, Trent. Last edited by Chiefspants; 10-23-2018 at 11:18 AM..
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5199358	I don't think we threw it as much back then. I wouldn't either with our OL and Priest etc; the toss sweep and stretch runs, and screens were a thing of beauty. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5199358	not a good look for a former #1 overall pick where it took 10 + years for everything to 'click' (and that's being generous); compared to an 8th rounder on his 3rd NFL team. Gimme Trent. at least he looked downfield and could make it through more than 1 read on his progressions before bailing on the play to the outlet. and Trent was a competitor. Alex looked like he didn't give a flying rip either way if we won or lost. Just protect that ball and keep the completion % up there. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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