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Old 04-20-2018, 10:55 AM  
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Lowering Age of Primary Election Voting

I was just reading where Arkansas lowered the legal age for voting during a primary to 17. The prerequisite for pre-registration being that they will have had to turn 18 prior to the November election. Of course, reading the comments, you have people saying that the "snowflakes are trying to rig elections by lowering the voting age," and other similar type of things.

Is it a partisan issue? Personally, I don't see anything wrong with letting those who would have had a say in the general election anyway do their part in helping to narrow down the candidates. Is that just because I tend to agree with the liberal side of issues?
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:00 PM   #31
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Why? Hell, why not just make it 11? or 6? Or hell, why shouldn't the pregnant Mother be able to vote twice?

Again, this country is bordering on the surreal these days.
Because those who are 11, 6, and unborn will not be 18 and voting in the general election?
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:01 PM   #32
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Some states use a permit-to-licence system with regards to driving. The world hasn't ended.

Schools use a cutoff date for child eligibility purposes. The planet still spins.

If you turn 18 the day after an election, you can't vote in that election. Earth still exists.


Idiots manufacturing a cause for political purposes are idiots manufacturing a cause for political purposes, no matter how they try to hide their purpose.
So, what's the difference in not voting in the primary but voting in the general election?
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:11 PM   #33
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So, what's the difference in not voting in the primary but voting in the general election?
Time and age
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:12 PM   #34
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The two main parties already exert more influence than they should over their primaries
You should really re-think that.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:15 PM   #35
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Because those who are 11, 6, and unborn will not be 18 and voting in the general election?

Well, my opinion is just leave it the hell alone. Once we begin "tinkering" with the voting system - anything can, and usually will, happen.

What's next? Allowing Canadians to vote in our elections? Mexican nationals?

In other words - slippery slope.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:23 PM   #36
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You should really re-think that.
I already have given it some thought. I realize that it is basically their sandbox and that they can do what they want in it. But just look at the last POTUS election. HRC was pushed by her party and Trump was battled by his. To the point that both situations became a bit unseemly.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:32 PM   #37
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I was just reading where Arkansas lowered the legal age for voting during a primary to 17. The prerequisite for pre-registration being that they will have had to turn 18 prior to the November election. Of course, reading the comments, you have people saying that the "snowflakes are trying to rig elections by lowering the voting age," and other similar type of things.

Is it a partisan issue? Personally, I don't see anything wrong with letting those who would have had a say in the general election anyway do their part in helping to narrow down the candidates. Is that just because I tend to agree with the liberal side of issues?
Definitely partisan. I can see why you don't have a problem with it. Yes it is because you're a liberal. It is liberals, who are really leftists that are doing this .

The Democratic left wants the voting age even lower than 17 to 16 to increase voters that are impressionable. If you can't win on your ideas, you can always try to replace voters with young people with little life experience including working and paying taxes. The other thing the Democrats are doing is allowing felons to vote state by state and using the courts as they have in Florida to allow this too. Add in giving licenses and other ID cards to allow illegals to vote—then you can see the pattern.

If anything, I would rather see the voting age increased.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #38
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But the 14th amendment already has them covered, right?

I don't know why you believe the 14th amendment pops the 19th amendment's reason to exist but not the 15th.

Explain that to me.
Women didn't get the vote until the 19th amendment. I think it would be news to the voters who ratified the 14th amendment that they were recognizing a right to vote for women.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:35 PM   #39
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What's next? Allowing Canadians to vote in our elections? Mexican nationals?

In other words - slippery slope.
Why yes, the left is making it easier for Mexican nationals here illegally to vote.
In the meantime, dual citizenship is exploding in this country, something frowned on by our govt because of dual loyalties. I would make this both a disqualification for voting and for running for ANY office. But this is the plan when you're socially engineering an international society as Kissinger has said in his own words.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:36 PM   #40
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Women didn't get the vote until the 19th amendment. I think it would be news to the voters who ratified the 14th amendment that they were recognizing a right to vote for women.
To play into your charade, please explain: why do you support repealing the 19th amendment?
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So, what's the difference in not voting in the primary but voting in the general election?
A lot. You should be able to figure that out.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:38 PM   #42
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I already have given it some thought. I realize that it is basically their sandbox and that they can do what they want in it. But just look at the last POTUS election. HRC was pushed by her party and Trump was battled by his. To the point that both situations became a bit unseemly.
The mechanics of selection are the business of the party, not the government. If the party wants to select a candidate by coin flip, by vote of infants, or by reading Tarot cards, that's their business.
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A child gradually gains rights along with responsibilities as they develop and mature with age. The don't get all rights an adult gets until age 18. Let's keep it that way—give them an incentive to grow up and mature.
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Old 04-20-2018, 01:46 PM   #44
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A child gradually gains rights along with responsibilities as they develop and mature with age. The don't get all rights an adult gets until age 18. Let's keep it that way—give them an incentive to grow up and mature.
Yeah, because I was WAY different at 17 years, 8 months than I was on my 18th birthday.
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To play into your charade, please explain: why do you support repealing the 19th amendment?
The less logical, more emotional sex votes democrat.
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