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**The Franchise** · 11-30-2009, 02:03 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

Man Forced to Choose Who to Save: Wife or Son
Monday, November 30, 2009

It is the choice no parent — or spouse — should ever have to make.

When New Zealand woman Vanessa Horton crashed her car into a river near the family home, her husband had to make the excruciating choice between saving her or resucing his son, who was trapped in the sinking car.

Silva Horton, 13, drowned in New Zealand's Whanganui River on Saturday night after the car, in which he was a front-seat passenger, came off the road and cartwheeled down a steep 32 foot bank into the water.

His father, Stacy, arrived from their nearby home in Whanganui, on North Island, less than two minutes after the crash to hear his wife screaming in the darkness and the family Mazda submerged, nose-down, three feet under the surface.

As his wife floundered in the water, Horton tried to dive down to the car to rescue his son, but said he could not reach the teenager.

"I tried to get down and get him but I couldn't, it was just too deep. And Vanessa was going under," Mr Horton told the Dominion Post newspaper.

"I made a call to pull my wife to safety. I looked back and I could see the tail-lights but it was too far and I couldn't get him," he said.

**The Franchise** · 11-30-2009, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

While I understand what you are saying, having another child does not replace a child lost.

This.

allen_kcCard · 11-30-2009, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

Your wife can have another kid. The kid can't have another mother. Hospitals won't give you a choice in the matter. If there are complications during child birth, they will save the mother every time over the infant.

I think a lot of that is that is playing the odds. I there are complications during child birth, the child has a much higher risk of issues than the mother...if you choose the save the child you are also choosing more of a risk to lose both. Sad, but I think it is more of a hedging of bets.

Pants · 11-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SDChiefs

I have never had a kid so I can't really say what I would do but I have been in love with a woman and I could not imagine a scenario where I would save anyones life over hers. I just hope to God I am never faced with that decision.

Man, I haven't experienced either (true love for a woman or having a child). But I think at that age (13 years old), I'm definitely saving my child.

Now, if complications were to arise during birth, I would definitely save my wife. We can always make more babies... of course she'd probably end up hating me for life and never speaking to me again, but at least I'd be able to live with myself.

Pioli Zombie · 11-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

You know something that worries me occasionally? I'm going to be in a big train wreck or something and there'll be fire everywhere and I'll be unconscious amidst the other passengers, and who do you think the firemen are going to save first? They'll probably be stepping right over me to get to the kids and then again to the women and then again for any pets and then again for the old people, and I'm going to be the last one in line to get saved, because no one really cares about saving bald middle-aged men.

And when you think about that, it makes no sense. Bald middle-aged men probably disproportionately produce the tax revenues that fund police and fire positions. If those rescuers were thoughtful, I'd be in the first group to be saved. Kids? They're just going to create more work for police and fire by sticking forks in outlets and stuff, and truth be told it was probably a kid who caused the train wreck in the first place. Police and fire personnel need to be cognizant of this stuff when they're running into those overturned train cars.

George Costanza??
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Goldmember · 11-30-2009, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Kids? They're just going to create more work for police and fire by sticking forks in outlets and stuff, and truth be told it was probably a kid who caused the train wreck in the first place. Police and fire personnel need to be cognizant of this stuff when they're running into those overturned train cars.

LOL, ok George Castanza

The Rick · 11-30-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Call me a cold SOB, but to me the decision is easy, I would save my son hands down, no question. And I know my wife would never have forgiven me if I did save her and not him.

Same here. I think both my wife and I would agree...save the kids before each other. I'd die to save my children, and I think she'd do the same.

**Rain Man** · 11-30-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

I think a lot of that is that is playing the odds. I there are complications during child birth, the child has a much higher risk of issues than the mother...if you choose the save the child you are also choosing more of a risk to lose both. Sad, but I think it is more of a hedging of bets.

People really should consult with alnorth or another certified actuary before attempting a rescue.

Pioli Zombie · 11-30-2009, 02:42 PM

Sorry this is a no-brainer if you have an equal chance at saving one or the other. Its a parents duty to save the child. And any spouse who has a problem with that is a selfish parent. In fact, you are a selfish parent. You never think about anyone but yourself. You **** up everybody's life and don't care who you hurt. I'm glad we are divorced! You are.....oh..wait.........sorry
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**Donger** · 11-30-2009, 02:44 PM

I'd have gone after whichever one was closest to going under first, but I don't think that I'd have been able to see my car going under with my child still in it and alive. Nope. Pretty sure I die trying to save him/her.

Inspector · 11-30-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

You know something that worries me occasionally? I'm going to be in a big train wreck or something and there'll be fire everywhere and I'll be unconscious amidst the other passengers, and who do you think the firemen are going to save first? They'll probably be stepping right over me to get to the kids and then again to the women and then again for any pets and then again for the old people, and I'm going to be the last one in line to get saved, because no one really cares about saving bald middle-aged men.

And when you think about that, it makes no sense. Bald middle-aged men probably disproportionately produce the tax revenues that fund police and fire positions. If those rescuers were thoughtful, I'd be in the first group to be saved. Kids? They're just going to create more work for police and fire by sticking forks in outlets and stuff, and truth be told it was probably a kid who caused the train wreck in the first place. Police and fire personnel need to be cognizant of this stuff when they're running into those overturned train cars.

Thank God I'm not bald. I'll still be able to ride trains.

**BigRedChief** · 11-30-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Call me a cold SOB, but to me the decision is easy, I would save my son hands down, no question. And I know my wife would never have forgiven me if I did save her and not him.

THIS. Easy decision. If it was turned around and it was me or the son I'd never be able to forgive her.

Inspector · 11-30-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I'd have gone after whichever one was closest to going under first, but I don't think that I'd have been able to see my car going under with my child still in it and alive. Nope. Pretty sure I die trying to save him/her.

This.

(That's the first time I've done the "This" reply. Now I understand why everyone likes it so much.)

Jilly · 11-30-2009, 02:47 PM

I'm a fighter and he knows that, but I doubt living life without my child is a fight I'd survive

Goldmember · 11-30-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Inspector

This.

(That's the first time I've done the "This" reply. Now I understand why everyone likes it so much.)

Some people don't like you doing "this"

**Easy 6** · 11-30-2009, 02:51 PM

Gah, these stories are always killers, especially so near the holidays. I read one online today about a 74 year old grandmother who got out of her car to place flowers at a roadside memorial for her granddaughter who died in early Nov., yep, mowed down & killed by a pickup truck.

I cant say who i'd try to save, i dont see how anyone could without being in his shoes.

Lose/Lose.

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11-30-2009, 02:42 PM	#23
Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	Sorry this is a no-brainer if you have an equal chance at saving one or the other. Its a parents duty to save the child. And any spouse who has a problem with that is a selfish parent. In fact, you are a selfish parent. You never think about anyone but yourself. You **** up everybody's life and don't care who you hurt. I'm glad we are divorced! You are.....oh..wait.........sorry Posted via Mobile Device
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Donger "Think BOOM!" Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: 33.675° N 106.475° W Casino cash: $10379900 VARSITY	I'd have gone after whichever one was closest to going under first, but I don't think that I'd have been able to see my car going under with my child still in it and alive. Nope. Pretty sure I die trying to save him/her. __________________ I think the young people enjoy it when I "get down," verbally, don't you?
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Jilly MVP Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lee's Summit Casino cash: $10004925	I'm a fighter and he knows that, but I doubt living life without my child is a fight I'd survive
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3757775	Gah, these stories are always killers, especially so near the holidays. I read one online today about a 74 year old grandmother who got out of her car to place flowers at a roadside memorial for her granddaughter who died in early Nov., yep, mowed down & killed by a pickup truck. I cant say who i'd try to save, i dont see how anyone could without being in his shoes. Lose/Lose.
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