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Old 04-23-2014, 10:58 AM  
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Governor Jay Nixon Facing Impeachment

The Republican-controlled Missouri House will begin impeachment proceedings against Democratic Gov. Jay Nixon on Wednesday. Why? There are three reasons, according to the state legislature's judiciary committee. First, Nixon allowed legally-married same-sex couples in the state to file joint tax returns in order to keep the state consistent with the IRS's post-Defense of Marriage Act policies. Second, Republicans argue Nixon took too long to call a special election to replace legislative vacancies. Third, Republicans believe that Nixon didn't punish state officials enough over a controversy involving concealed carry permits.


So, will Nixon get impeached? It's unlikely. Republicans control both the state's House and Senate, but as the Washington Post notes, the bills probably won't make it to a final vote in both houses of the legislature. Even if they did, the state constitution outlines that the governor can't actually be removed from office unless five of seven state judges convict him.

In other words, the impeachment proceedings are likely more of an opportunity for a handful of Republican legislators to make a point than they are a serious threat to Nixon's office. The legislative ring leader of the pro-impeachment representatives is state Rep. Nick Marshall, who promised to begin proceedings in November.


According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Marshall's move was prompted by Nixon's executive order allowing the state to accept joint tax returns from married, same-sex couples. Missouri's ban on same-sex marriage prohibits the sate from recognizing legal, same-sex marriages performed elsewhere.

But the third reason behind the impeachment proceedings the concealed carry permit controversy has also captured the imagination of Nixon's political opponents. Basically, the Missouri Highway Patrol recently admitted that it has, on two occasions, provided federal investigators with lists of Missourians holding concealed carry permits in the state. Nixon has said that the move is legal, and that it was in order to aid in specific federal investigations. Some Republicans, however, argue that the move violated the privacy of permit holders and that the government might be trying to collect the names of gun owners for surveillance. Missouri House Speaker Tim Jones said he was " very concerned that this may be a back-door attempt to create the Eric Holder gun registry, " according to the Post-Dispatch. The state legislature has also been on the Nixon administration's case about the way in which the Department of Revenue handles the data of driver's license applicants.


Only one Missouri official has successfully been impeached and removed from office in the history of the state: Former Secretary of State Judith Moriarty was impeached in 1994 following accusations that she backdated election forms filed by her son so it would appear that he didn't miss the filing deadline.



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Old 04-23-2014, 11:13 AM   #2
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:20 AM   #3
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On point 3, they are right, but the grounds for impeachment sound flimsy at best. Seems like a big waste of time.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:22 AM   #4
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:23 AM   #5
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I hate impeachments. Recourse is already provided with elections. Don't like a politician? Vote him out. Democracies should not rely on this method.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:30 AM   #6
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I hate impeachments. Recourse is already provided with elections. Don't like a politician? Vote him out. Democracies should not rely on this method.
Recourse is also provided through impeachment. I don't think it's warranted here, but it's a valuable tool for limiting the damage of a guy who snookered the voters.
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Old 04-23-2014, 12:05 PM   #7
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Recourse is also provided through impeachment. I don't think it's warranted here, but it's a valuable tool for limiting the damage of a guy who snookered the voters.
It's reserved for crimes.
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The carry permit is the main impeachable offense here, what a scumbag.
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It's reserved for crimes.
No it isn't.
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Impeachment--officers liable--grounds.
Section 1. All elective executive officials of the state, and judges of the supreme court, courts of appeals and circuit courts shall be liable to impeachment for crimes, misconduct, habitual drunkenness, willful neglect of duty, corruption in office, incompetency, or any offense involving moral turpitude or oppression in office.

Source: Const. of 1875, Art. VII, 1 (as amended Feb. 26, 1924)



The only way you could justify removing Nixon is under the "incompetency" criteria but that is impossible to prove and that's always in the eye of the beholder. If he was truly incompetent he wouldn't have been elected (by +19) or re-elected (+12).
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Impeachment--officers liable--grounds.
Section 1. All elective executive officials of the state, and judges of the supreme court, courts of appeals and circuit courts shall be liable to impeachment for crimes, misconduct, habitual drunkenness, willful neglect of duty, corruption in office, incompetency, or any offense involving moral turpitude or oppression in office.

Source: Const. of 1875, Art. VII, 1 (as amended Feb. 26, 1924)
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The only way you could justify removing Nixon is under the "incompetency" criteria but that is impossible to prove and that's always in the eye of the beholder. If he was truly incompetent he wouldn't have been elected (by +19) or re-elected (+12).
Misconduct is a pretty flexible criteria.
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