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Old 03-05-2007, 12:59 PM  
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Patriots are confusing me
What is the deal with Welker? What is it about Welker that is (a) worth the contract and (b) worth a 2nd round pick if MIA doesn't match?

Patriots | Welker update
Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:29:38 -0800
Dan Pires, of The Standard-Times, reports the offer sheet the New England Patriots signed restricted free agent WR Wes Welker (Dolphins) is a seven-year, $38 million offer, according to sources close to the situation. The Patriots would have to give up a second-round draft pick to the Miami Dolphins should the Dolphins decline to match the offer.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:15 AM   #46
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Wes Welker... LOL. That's a Chief-type move, sending a second-rounder for that kinda production.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:22 AM   #47
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I still hate thinking the Caldwell in our #1

Look at our SB winning receiving groups and you won't exactly be floored by the HOF resumes of them all. Teh Pats prefer a larger group of short-mid range guys who are quicker than they are fast. They just aren't going to spend either the high draft pick or the $$ needed for an elite WR.

Plus, perhaps they think, the elite WRs are often self-centered, team destroying headcases (Moss, Owens, etc).
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:22 AM   #48
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Wes Welker... LOL. That's a Chief-type move, sending a second-rounder for that kinda production.

Right, just trying to get a rise. I'm not biting. Please go find something more entertaining to do.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:32 AM   #49
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Look at our SB winning receiving groups and you won't exactly be floored by the HOF resumes of them all. Teh Pats prefer a larger group of short-mid range guys who are quicker than they are fast. They just aren't going to spend either the high draft pick or the $$ needed for an elite WR.

Plus, perhaps they think, the elite WRs are often self-centered, team destroying headcases (Moss, Owens, etc).
And yet, John Clayton reported this morning that Belichick has a hard-on for Randy Moss. Clayton said he didn't think a deal would come to fruition, but still ... very interesting.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:51 AM   #50
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Look at our SB winning receiving groups and you won't exactly be floored by the HOF resumes of them all. Teh Pats prefer a larger group of short-mid range guys who are quicker than they are fast. They just aren't going to spend either the high draft pick or the $$ needed for an elite WR.

Plus, perhaps they think, the elite WRs are often self-centered, team destroying headcases (Moss, Owens, etc).

I agree, but still...........Caldwell.......#1? It sometimes makes me shed a tear.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:58 AM   #51
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Let me back up. Pioli and Belichick have won 3 Super Bowls in the last 5 years, been to the AFC Championship Game, losing in the final minute another time, and went to the playoffs losing in the 2nd round another year. 6 years, 5 playoffs, never a one-and-done, and 3 Superbowls.

What have you done to prove your NFL bona fides so you can tell me why they're wrong and you're right that they overpaid, or that the trade wasn't worth it?

Let me say this -- Patriots Nation, which has SEEN Welker play, and play well, against us and others, is overwhelmingly in favor of this. If Broncos fans think we got gypped, I'm sure I'll survive your disfavor.
Good lord.

Welker is a 3rd year guy... he had only 7 games with more than 50 yards in 2006 and no more than 77 yards in any game. The NE method of late is to get a bunch of "guys" at WR and see which one produces from week to week. Not bad, but again... the $ is a bit out of whack to me. If that is a hell of a deal for Patriots Nation, then cool.
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Old 03-06-2007, 08:58 AM   #52
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Right, just trying to get a rise. I'm not biting.


You sure about that?
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Look at our SB winning receiving groups and you won't exactly be floored by the HOF resumes of them all. Teh Pats prefer a larger group of short-mid range guys who are quicker than they are fast. They just aren't going to spend either the high draft pick or the $$ needed for an elite WR.

Plus, perhaps they think, the elite WRs are often self-centered, team destroying headcases (Moss, Owens, etc).
True, but I don't see a Deion Branch among the current group... no, not even the vaunted Wes Welker. I think Branch did well in one of those SBs.

Let's not act as if the Patriots only had "no names" in the SBs. I'm not suggesting those guys were Jerry Rice, but please... the SBs weren't won with a team of Welkers.
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Old 03-06-2007, 09:02 AM   #54
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Look at our SB winning receiving groups and you won't exactly be floored by the HOF resumes of them all. Teh Pats prefer a larger group of short-mid range guys who are quicker than they are fast. They just aren't going to spend either the high draft pick or the $$ needed for an elite WR.

Plus, perhaps they think, the elite WRs are often self-centered, team destroying headcases (Moss, Owens, etc).
There are rumors that mumbles is going after Randy Moss for a 2nd or 3rd rounder..

What do you think about getting him?
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Seems like a pretty lame move. I wouldn't bet against the Patriots when it comes to player evaluation though.
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Wes Welker... LOL. That's a Chief-type move, sending a second-rounder for that kinda production.
Please tell me you haven't just insured that we will send a second to Seattle for Jordan Babineaux.
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I find a touch of irony in how doing things "the Patriots way" and not paying to keep Branch has resulted in them over-paying for Welker and courting a cancer like Moss.
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I find a touch of irony in how doing things "the Patriots way" and not paying to keep Branch has resulted in them over-paying for Welker and courting a cancer like Moss.
You're going to make Amnorix's head explode... look out, you're venturing into unchartered territory.
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I find a touch of irony in how doing things "the Patriots way" and not paying to keep Branch has resulted in them over-paying for Welker and courting a cancer like Moss.
they'd have been in the superbowl again if they had kept Branch...
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they'd have been in the superbowl again if they had kept Branch...
For sure.
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