Chiefs Has our defense been HARSHLY judged? - Page 13

UChieffyBugger · 04:41 PM

It seems to be in fashion to knock the Chiefs defense. WE as fans slaughter them daily, the local press slaughter then daily, the NATIONAL and INTERNATIONAL media slaughter them daily, and when I sit and think about the circumstances sounding that group, one could argue that they are getting judged a little harshly.

Now let's start with the preseason. Ragland and Hitchens played ONE warm-up together against the Bears and both missed several practice sessions. Nelson got knocked out of the Atlanta game and missed sessions himself, whilst Parker wasn't even In our building during the preseason. Then we have Ford who Is just returning to the team after being out for most of last season, and Houston barely played In the warm-up games himself.

Last year there was a perception that we had "the worst defense known to man", but I argued it was an overblown notion because the reality was that we were around fifteenth In the points allowed tally. But that notion has stuck with the team and now this unit that has barely played together Is thrown together and Is trying to both gel as a unit and get their football legs going all whilst facing TWO quality offenses on the road. The Pats defense started off badly too last year and then managed to be a decent unit until the superbowl where they contrived to drop their best corner, so there is a clear example of how things can change quickly In this game.

Randallflagg · 09-23-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefaRoo

If KC could get Berry and Thomas on the field at the same time and running the D this team could win it all. That’s worth a super high pic to the Seahawks.

Not that I disagree necessarily - but right now, tonight, I'm not convinced that Berry is going to play this season.....

Jimmya · 09-23-2018, 09:18 PM

In 2008 the Jets moved Sutton from DC to linebackers coach... History needs to repeat itself.

ChiefaRoo · 09-23-2018, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this rate, our first round pick is going to be 25th or later at the very worst. If that's what they want for Thomas, give it to them.

Agreed, plus KC has two second round picks next year. It’s a no brainer. DO IT Veach!!

PunkinDrublic · 09-23-2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Did you miss where 3 different guys had a chance to tackle him 5 yards short of the first down and whiffed?

That was the same shitty tackling we saw against Tennessee. Only point in the game that I really got pissed off.

RunKC · 09-23-2018, 10:41 PM

They have been good when it matters.

The Chiefs are allowing 4.84 yards per play and 2 points per drive when it's a one score game.

When it's a 2+ score game, they're allowing 7.9 yards per play and 3.43 points per drive.
— Craig Stout (@barleyhop) September 24, 2018

BlackOp · 09-23-2018, 10:46 PM

Maybe Berry can donate a portion of his last 18 game checks to Thomas's signing bonus...

Chiefs need to make a decision on if Berry is actually capable of playing at a high level THIS year, if at all.

The AFC looks like its in transition, finally...and the Chiefs have a legit shot of making the SB.

KC making the SB in my lifetime is worth more than any one draft pick...Which players are up for contract extensions next year? I'll take 29 year old Thomas over Dee Ford.

Danguardace · 09-24-2018, 02:48 AM

This Defense robbed us of some sweet Chad Henne hand-offs in the 4th.

I am pissed.

htismaqe · 09-24-2018, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

Maybe Berry can donate a portion of his last 18 game checks to Thomas's signing bonus...

Chiefs need to make a decision on if Berry is actually capable of playing at a high level THIS year, if at all.

The AFC looks like its in transition, finally...and the Chiefs have a legit shot of making the SB.

KC making the SB in my lifetime is worth more than any one draft pick...Which players are up for contract extensions next year? I'll take 29 year old Thomas over Dee Ford.

Dunerdr · 09-24-2018, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

At this rate, our first round pick is going to be 25th or later at the very worst. If that's what they want for Thomas, give it to them.

Isn't it a one year rental?

Mecca · 09-24-2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Isn't it a one year rental?

If you make the trade you're paying him, that's the reason he doesn't want to be there anymore.

htismaqe · 09-24-2018, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you make the trade you're paying him, that's the reason he doesn't want to be there anymore.

Exactly. He's getting a deal from whoever trades for him.

RunKC · 09-24-2018, 08:26 AM

A healthy Eric Berry will really help rectify the TE problem.

A healthy Dirty Dan will help problems in the back. He’s better than Murray.

Biggest problem right now is our LB coverage. Ragland is too slow out there and Hitchens can’t cover for him the entire game. This is literally why we drafted Dorian O’Daniel.

Get him on the field

O.city · 09-24-2018, 08:27 AM

Yeah, the O'daniel thing is weird. Get him out there.

Ragland just doesn't look good. I'd throw Nieman out there when he comes back.

The ILB spot isn't about big bodied dudes playing down hil taking on blocks anymore. Gotta be able to run sideline to sideline and run around blocks.

Dunerdr · 09-24-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If you make the trade you're paying him, that's the reason he doesn't want to be there anymore.

I don't see us paying two safeties premium money.

ModSocks · 09-24-2018, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They have been good when it matters.

The Chiefs are allowing 4.84 yards per play and 2 points per drive when it's a one score game.

When it's a 2+ score game, they're allowing 7.9 yards per play and 3.43 points per drive.
— Craig Stout (@barleyhop) September 24, 2018

The WHOLE game matters.

These are just excuses. Attempts to find bright spots in a bad defense.

That's fine. I'm all for it. But they have a long way to go.

09-21-2018, 04:35 PM
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $2710400	Has our defense been HARSHLY judged? It seems to be in fashion to knock the Chiefs defense. WE as fans slaughter them daily, the local press slaughter then daily, the NATIONAL and INTERNATIONAL media slaughter them daily, and when I sit and think about the circumstances sounding that group, one could argue that they are getting judged a little harshly. Now let's start with the preseason. Ragland and Hitchens played ONE warm-up together against the Bears and both missed several practice sessions. Nelson got knocked out of the Atlanta game and missed sessions himself, whilst Parker wasn't even In our building during the preseason. Then we have Ford who Is just returning to the team after being out for most of last season, and Houston barely played In the warm-up games himself. Last year there was a perception that we had "the worst defense known to man", but I argued it was an overblown notion because the reality was that we were around fifteenth In the points allowed tally. But that notion has stuck with the team and now this unit that has barely played together Is thrown together and Is trying to both gel as a unit and get their football legs going all whilst facing TWO quality offenses on the road. The Pats defense started off badly too last year and then managed to be a decent unit until the superbowl where they contrived to drop their best corner, so there is a clear example of how things can change quickly In this game. Last edited by UChieffyBugger; 09-21-2018 at 04:41 PM..
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2339611	They have been good when it matters. The Chiefs are allowing 4.84 yards per play and 2 points per drive when it's a one score game. When it's a 2+ score game, they're allowing 7.9 yards per play and 3.43 points per drive. — Craig Stout (@barleyhop) September 24, 2018 __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $5875267	Maybe Berry can donate a portion of his last 18 game checks to Thomas's signing bonus... Chiefs need to make a decision on if Berry is actually capable of playing at a high level THIS year, if at all. The AFC looks like its in transition, finally...and the Chiefs have a legit shot of making the SB. KC making the SB in my lifetime is worth more than any one draft pick...Which players are up for contract extensions next year? I'll take 29 year old Thomas over Dee Ford.
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $2339611	A healthy Eric Berry will really help rectify the TE problem. A healthy Dirty Dan will help problems in the back. He’s better than Murray. Biggest problem right now is our LB coverage. Ragland is too slow out there and Hitchens can’t cover for him the entire game. This is literally why we drafted Dorian O’Daniel. Get him on the field __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Noah Gray
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2834064	Yeah, the O'daniel thing is weird. Get him out there. Ragland just doesn't look good. I'd throw Nieman out there when he comes back. The ILB spot isn't about big bodied dudes playing down hil taking on blocks anymore. Gotta be able to run sideline to sideline and run around blocks.
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