Restating the obvious, Dorsey learned from Ted Thompson

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/03/packers-prefer-compensatory-picks-over-unrestricted-free-agents/


Packers General Manager Ted Thompson has a formula for building his team, and he’s sticking with it.

Thompson believes in building through the draft, not free agency, and that includes acquiring more draft picks by declining to sign unrestricted free agents. In the NFL, teams that lose more in free agency than they acquire get compensatory picks, and the Packers’ moves in free agency this year indicate that they’re already thinking about acquiring compensatory picks for next year. The NFL doesn’t public the precise formula used to determine compensatory picks, but the simple version is that if the unrestricted free agents you lose are better, higher-paid players than the unrestricted free agents you sign, then the NFL will compensate you the following year with compensatory picks.

As the Green Bay Press-Gazette points out, even the one big name the Packers have signed this offseason, Julius Peppers, was a free agent because he was released by the Bears, not because his previous contract expired. That means he won’t count as an unrestricted free agent addition for the Packers for the purpose of determining their compensatory picks next year.

Last year the Packers lost two key players, receiver Greg Jennings and linebacker Erik Walden, as unrestricted free agents. And the Packers didn’t sign any unrestricted free agents last year. As a result, this year they’re getting an extra third-round pick and an extra fifth-round pick as compensatory selections.

This year the Packers have again not signed away any players whose previous contract expired, but they have lost four players, center Evan Dietrich-Smith, receiver James Jones, defensive lineman C.J. Wilson and offensive lineman Marshall Newhouse. That means the Packers will almost certainly do well when the compensatory picks are passed out a year from now.

Building through the draft and declining to overspend in free agency would be a smart strategy even if the NFL didn’t have a compensatory pick system to reward frugal teams. But when compensatory picks are added to the equation, it’s easy to see why Thompson declines to go after free agents. The Packers have been successful this way. It’s surprising more teams haven’t copied them.


May not be popular here but Dorsey is doing exactly the same thing Thompson and Ozzie Newsome are doing, stockpile draft picks and let UFAs get overpaid elsewhere.

[Messier]

People here seem to have a problem with Dorsey, they say because last offseason doesn't look like this offseason. "Where's the continuity?!?" personally, I think they're just mad because we're not active this year, not that there's no continuity.

But, I think it's very possible that last year, Reid had might have stepped in and said there are some things we NEED to get done. Get Alex Smith, and resign Bowe.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Messier

People here seem to have a problem with Dorsey, they say because last offseason doesn't look like this offseason. "Where's the continuity?!?" personally, I think they're just mad because we're not active this year, not that there's no continuity.

But, I think it's very possible that last year, Reid had might have stepped in and said there are some things we NEED to get done. Get Alex Smith, and resign Bowe.

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

They are very easy to see. The only reason why some dont is because they don't want to...

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

HT, I'll agree with you if next year he goes back to throwing money all over the place in FA and then the year after that, "builds through the draft" again. This is the second offseason he has been with the Chiefs. Last year was about doing what needed to be done just to turn a capsized ship over and bail out the water. Now that that ship is floating again he is going to start building his "crew" through the draft and cheap FA's the way that he likes to develop his team.

The first year was an anomaly - he said it was going to be at the time and has said it was several times since then. I think he deserves a bit more than 2 off seasons before we can say that he isn't consistent - 3 at the very least.

[rico]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

Yeah, when I read the OP, my first thought was, "well then, what the **** happened to our 2nd round pick this year that would come in friggy-diggy-freaking handy???"

Then I started crying again.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by rico

Yeah, when I read the OP, my first thought was, "well then, what the **** happened to our 2nd round pick this year that would come in friggy-diggy-freaking handy???"

Then I started crying again.

It would come in handy, but then you'd have Geno Smith under center.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

It would come in handy, but then you'd have Geno Smith under center.

He never said that.

The Alex lovers' insecurity surrounding Geno Smith is hilarious.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You think wrong.

I'm mad because he says he's building through the draft while trading away draft picks.

If you don't see those two things as contradictory, you're just being stubborn because they absolutely are.

You are wrong in so many ways it has become tiring. you CAN build through the draft and use other avenues to fill holes. building through the draft means the majority of your players are drafted and usually the core foundation is as well. it doesnt mean they refuse to make the team better via trade or free agency. Your one argument is Dorsey made 1 trade so hes not building through the draft even though he is stockpiling picks and not signing a lot of free agents. Thats lunacy.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

You are wrong in so many ways it has become tiring. you CAN build through the draft and use other avenues to fill holes. building through the draft means the majority of your players are drafted and usually the core foundation is as well. it doesnt mean they refuse to make the team better via trade or free agency. Your one argument is Dorsey made 1 trade so hes not building through the draft even though he is stockpiling picks and not signing a lot of free agents. Thats lunacy.

It's extremely simplistic narrow minded agenda driven thinking is what it is.

Its simply a narrative built for 1 purpose, to be able to complain about this off-season.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It's extremely simplistic narrow minded agenda driven thinking is what it is.

Its simply a narrative built for 1 purpose, to be able to complain about this off-season.

You might have a point, if I were actually complaining...

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

It's extremely simplistic narrow minded agenda driven thinking is what it is.

Its simply a narrative built for 1 purpose, to be able to complain about every off-season.

FYP

He would have rather we drafted Geno Smith at 1.1 and paid him a QB contract worthy of the 1.1 knowing that contract is fully guaranteed or maybe have signed some shit backup QB while knowing the fans are flying banners and unhappy with the product and those moves would not have improved the product all while fan interest is leaving.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

You are wrong in so many ways it has become tiring. you CAN build through the draft and use other avenues to fill holes. building through the draft means the majority of your players are drafted and usually the core foundation is as well. it doesnt mean they refuse to make the team better via trade or free agency. Your one argument is Dorsey made 1 trade so hes not building through the draft even though he is stockpiling picks and not signing a lot of free agents. Thats lunacy.

You're so tired of it you can't resist responding.

Sheep.

[SDChiefs]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're so tired of it you can't resist responding.

Sheep.

youre an idiot. ive stopped reading several threads because of your stupidity. then i respond once because im tired of it and im a sheep. nice. why dont you pull your head out of you ass and grow some common sense and maybe a little book smarts might go a long way too.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Messier

People here seem to have a problem with Dorsey, they say because last offseason doesn't look like this offseason. "Where's the continuity?!?" personally, I think they're just mad because we're not active this year, not that there's no continuity.

I think it's more about being upset because the chiefs haven't done exactly what people want. It happens every year, usually more with the draft. "I want (insert player name) but they didn't do that so I deem this (draft/free agency period/off-season) a complete failure."

I do it, too. I thought (and still think) Andy Reid was the wrong hire. I've been pretty vocal about that. They identified what they believed was the best available short and long term option at quarterback, which is something I should agree with philosophically, but I didn't like Alex Smith, so I wasn't happy there either. I was never really a dick about it but I wanted them to give Geno Smith a look. Which I believe they never did - not for a second. And if not him, then I would have gone Austin or Patterson. Fisher was a move I will never, ever like, short of the guy making the Hall.

Is that fair? Probably not, but that's the way it is. That's the way fans are. We aren't rational no matter how much we try to cloak our arguments in logic and stats. We believe that we know how things should be done, better than anyone else, be it owners or gms or other fans, and that's every bit as true for those of us who think the chiefs should never be questioned and everybody who does is an idiot as is it for the ones who thinks they're incompetent clowns and anybody who approves is a homer.

At the end of the day this is mostly emotion and we're mostly throwing tantrums because we didn't get the toys we want, or we're bitching out people who disagree with us, or we're slapping people on the back and hailing them as geniuses if they say something we actually like.

Pretty simple really. It's the internet and that's how things are done.