Interested in Az-Hakim

[tyton75]

Chiefs | Hakim Could be an Option - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 27 Apr 2005 07:34:30 -0700

ESPN.com's John Clayton reports free agent WR Az-Zahir Hakim (Lions) may be an option for the Kansas City Chiefs.


guess this just goes back to, would you rather have Az or Morton..

I'd rather have Az I think

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Originally Posted by Laz

and did you see Gonzo "alligator arm" a touchdown pass against minnesota because he was about to get hit?

minnesota safety made an interception because of it too

no I don't remember that, so Pinkston was doing the Gonzo

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by jcroft

Another year, I'd probably agree. But this is supposed to be the last year of our "window." I think we need to have a couple of veteran WRs on the roster. I'd still love to see our young guys beat them out, but I'm not willing to count on it. Bringing in someone to replace Morton can only increase the competition in camp and make Parker and Cro better.

If that's your reasoning, then my question is "why start tinkering with a well-oiled machine?" The notion that Hakim will come in here and be head and shoulders above Morton is beyond me. Hakim's best year barely measures up to Morton's worst. There's a reason this guy is a cast-off.

A big part of our offense is timing. Green has to trust that WR is going to be where he's supposed to be when he releases that ball. Vermeil even admitted that was what kept Smith and Parker from getting more opportunities last year. I'd rather keep a safety net in Morton, and let one of the younger guys unseat him if they show the ability to do so.

[1punkyQB]

I've heard that statement bandied around a lot , but I don't see any justification for it.

If Roaf and Shields do retire after this year, which is quite possible, I'd say the window closes in a hurry. It's tough to replace two Pro Bowl lineman. That's probably a large part of the reason Green hasn't missed a game in years.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by 1punkyQB

If Roaf and Shields do retire after this year, which is quite possible, I'd say the window closes in a hurry. It's tough to replace two Pro Bowl lineman. That's probably a large part of the reason Green hasn't missed a game in years.

Even if those two leave, the chiefs still have a very good core of offensive linemen. They'd still have the QB, RB, WRs, and TE on offense, and an improving defense.

[Warrior5]

I really want Chris Horn to make the roster.

[TRR]

Az Hakim would be the perfect addition to our WR corp. He is young (28 years old), knows the system, and could step right in and take over for where Morton left off. Plus, he has a lot more big play ability than Morton. Az would also come pretty cheap.

We can't afford a WR like Isaac Bruce, who (1) makes our WR corp even older, and (2) will command Johnnie Morton money.

Az Hakim would be the perfect fit.

[go bo]

Originally Posted by chop

I say NO to Az also. It doesn't matter to me whether JM gets released or not, I want to give Bo and Parker more reps. I think with Bo and Kennison starting and Parker as the third receiver.

while your sentiments warm the cockles of my heart, even i don't foresee bo starting this year, unless as a result of injuries to other wr's...

[jcroft]

Originally Posted by Brock

I've heard that statement bandied around a lot , but I don't see any justification for it.

The justification, I'd say, is that many of our offensive starters are either only under contract for one more year or are expected to retire after one more year, and our head coach is in the last season of his contract, and presumably his career.

[jcroft]

Originally Posted by jspchief

If that's your reasoning, then my question is "why start tinkering with a well-oiled machine?" The notion that Hakim will come in here and be head and shoulders above Morton is beyond me. Hakim's best year barely measures up to Morton's worst. There's a reason this guy is a cast-off.

A big part of our offense is timing. Green has to trust that WR is going to be where he's supposed to be when he releases that ball. Vermeil even admitted that was what kept Smith and Parker from getting more opportunities last year. I'd rather keep a safety net in Morton, and let one of the younger guys unseat him if they show the ability to do so.

I agree, and I've said all along that I'm fine with keeping Morton if he'll restructure his contract. I'd prefer that so signing Hakim, to be sure.

But, it seems to be a forgone conclusion of most here that Morton is a goner, and if that's the case, I think we need to replace him with a vet that knows this system.

[jcroft]

Originally Posted by Brock

Even if those two leave, the chiefs still have a very good core of offensive linemen. They'd still have the QB, RB, WRs, and TE on offense, and an improving defense.

You may be right, but we'll be looking at a new head coach, and that could change everything. I also think there's a good chance Priest is gone next year (either retired or traded) and that will change things. Even though LJ looks like he's going to be a quality NFL back, losing Priest would mean a lot of changes for this offense, which is built around him.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by Gaz

I’d rather have Parker, I think.

xoxo~
Gaz
Liked what he saw last season.

So true.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by jcroft

Even when Boe was healthy two years ago he made virtually zero contribution. What makes you think this year will be different?

I don't know. He was playing pretty well last preseason and was looking to unseat Morton before he blew out his knee. He was also pretty impressive in his rookie year with his 8 TDs out of 20 receptions. To go along with that he's also an important part of our blocking on running plays at 6'4" and 220Lbs. If he's not healthy then I think that changes things but I'd still rather wait to see if Bruce is cut loose before signing Az Hakim. I think Parker has more talent then Hakim.

PhilFree

[jcroft]

Originally Posted by Warrior5

I really want Chris Horn to make the roster.

As much as I like the ballsy play of Chris Horn and his continued improvement every year, I'd say that if Chris Horn makes this roster, it means that our WRs really, really suck. In the "depth chat in my head," I can't see Horn any higher than 8th.

Kennison
Morton/Hakim/other vet
Parker
Boerigter
Hall
Thorpe
Smith
Horn

[Brock]

Originally Posted by jcroft

The justification, I'd say, is that many of our offensive starters are either only under contract for one more year or are expected to retire after one more year, and our head coach is in the last season of his contract, and presumably his career.

Well, if you'd say that many of our offensive starters are only under contract for one more year, you'd be wrong. The coach is a non-factor as far as I'm concerned. I am no longer convinced Vermeil knows which end is up.

[jcroft]

Originally Posted by philfree

I don't know. He was playing pretty well last preseason and was looking to unseat Morton before he blew out his knee. He was also pretty impressive in his rookie year with his 8 TDs out of 20 receptions. To go along with that he's also an important part of our blocking on running plays at 6'4" and 220Lbs. If he's not healthy then I think that changes things but I'd still rather wait to see if Bruce is cut loose before signing Az Hakim. I think Parker has more talent then Hakim.

PhilFree

That's certainly not how I remember it. Yes, he had a very good rookie season three years ago. Two years ago he did next to nothing. One year ago he was injured for the entire season. I am holding out hope he'll return to the form of his rookie year, but I'm not prepared to count on it.

I'd prefer Bruce to Hakim, too, but Bruce is going to be pricey and my understanding is that he's not a fan of Vermeil's and he wouldn't want to play here anyway.