Rebuilding...

Wa-Z · 09-11-2006, 11:14 AM

I've seen that being mentioned in a few threads and I think it's obviously time to. But I keep asking my self if Herm, Solari and co. are the ones that should do it.

When Herm was with the Jets, they were never a premier team. He just took the reigns of Parcells. They went to the playoffs in '02 with a 9-7 record because of a weak division, and in '04 they were a Wild-Card team...

Mecca · 09-11-2006, 11:17 AM

They'll never really rebuild as long as Carl is here. His style has always been to sign enough veteran FA's to win 6 or 7 games even in the bad years. People make jokes about filling the stadium but he does care about that and doesn't wanna go completely young and have a 4-12 year.

Archie F. Swin · 09-11-2006, 11:30 AM

Rebuild? Christ...three quarters of this team is solid...what's with you people?!!!!

Yesterday we found out what happens when your O-line is average at best. If you can't make it happen at the line of scrimmage, you can't make it happen.

Gawd almighty!!!

All you mutherfukcers can send me your season tickets...

Mecca · 09-11-2006, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Rebuild? Christ...three quarters of this team is solid...what's with you people?!!!!

Yesterday we found out what happens when your O-line is average at best. If you can't make it happen at the line of scrimmage, you can't make it happen.

Gawd almighty!!!

All you mutherfukcers can send me your season tickets...

So you don't see the overall age of the team eh?

Simplex3 · 09-11-2006, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Rebuild? Christ...three quarters of this team is solid...what's with you people?!!!!

Yesterday we found out what happens when your O-line is average at best. If you can't make it happen at the line of scrimmage, you can't make it happen.

Gawd almighty!!!

All you mutherfukcers can send me your season tickets...

This team is good in some places, but most of those places are old. I'm sorry, but the joy ride is coming to an end, as evidenced by our OL yesterday.

Wa-Z · 09-11-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Rebuild? Christ...three quarters of this team is solid...what's with you people?!!!!

Yesterday we found out what happens when your O-line is average at best. If you can't make it happen at the line of scrimmage, you can't make it happen.

Gawd almighty!!!

All you mutherfukcers can send me your season tickets...

Average? That's being generous. They were horrible. How do you expect this line to get better?? Roaf?...No. Cinncinatti's D-line isn't even one of the top 10 lines and they slaughtered us.

Mecca · 09-11-2006, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Average? That's being generous. They were horrible. How do you expect this line to get better?? Roaf?...No. Cinncinatti's D-line isn't even one of the top 10 lines and they slaughtered us.

And that's why this could be an ugly year, Cincys defense isn't good and they made us look bad.

Archie F. Swin · 09-11-2006, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wa-Z

Average? That's being generous. They were horrible.

I say average based on the past efforts of Shields, Waters and Wiegmann...they deserve respect

ChiefsCountry · 09-11-2006, 11:32 AM

Wow it keeps getting more idiots on here. I dont blame them at all for not blowing a team up heck look at our team now its basically set up for the future with the free agents filling wholes. Our defense is filled with young players, heck by next season we could be seeing most of our lineup with players we have drafted since 2003. And our offense is slowly doing the same.

Chiefs Pantalones · 09-11-2006, 11:38 AM

We won't be rebuilding until next year. This year we are a just below average football team...heh

keg in kc · 09-11-2006, 11:49 AM

Herm took over for Al Groh, not Parcells. Two years prior to Edwards they were 8-8 and 9-7, so it's not like we're talking about a good team. Jets fans talk like he killed their long storied franchise, but we're talking about the Jets, for Christ's sakes. They have a long, proud history of suck.

And it was one game. There's 15 more.

Mecca · 09-11-2006, 11:53 AM

Wiegmann looked like complete shit yesterday.....average DT's bowled him over numerous times.

Sometimes when good players start getting old they fall off the face of the map, remember when the Raiders were good and old a few years ago and they all showed their age together?

keg in kc · 09-11-2006, 11:57 AM

Center's play is going to suffer if the tackles continue to suck. He won't have guards there to help him with Tackles that outweigh him by 40-50 pounds.

Archie Bunker · 09-11-2006, 12:04 PM

Herm has coached one game. He has an patchwork OL and D that is improving give the man a damn chance. This season is not over.

IMO Herm is the perfect person to lead the rebuilding if it happens. The best young talent is on the defensive side of the ball and that is his specialty. I think it will be easier to rebuild with a dominate D and a conservative LJ led offense(for example Bears, Ravens).

It is far from hopeless. At worst this team resembles DV's first year and Herm can build it back up just like DV did.

Mecca · 09-11-2006, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Herm has coached one game. He has an patchwork OL and D that is improving give the man a damn chance. This season is not over.

IMO Herm is the perfect person to lead the rebuilding if it happens. The best young talent is on the defensive side of the ball and that is his specialty. I think it will be easier to rebuild with a dominate D and a conservative LJ led offense(for example Bears, Ravens).

It is far from hopeless. At worst this team resembles DV's first year and Herm can build it back up just like DV did.

But will the Chiefs management wanna rebuild? From what I've seen with Carls history he'd much rather put a bandaid on it and go patchwork and win 7-8 games.

09-11-2006, 11:14 AM	Topic Starter
Wa-Z Veteran Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: O Casino cash: $10004900	Rebuilding... I've seen that being mentioned in a few threads and I think it's obviously time to. But I keep asking my self if Herm, Solari and co. are the ones that should do it. When Herm was with the Jets, they were never a premier team. He just took the reigns of Parcells. They went to the playoffs in '02 with a 9-7 record because of a weak division, and in '04 they were a Wild-Card team...
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09-11-2006, 11:17 AM	#2
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2647050	They'll never really rebuild as long as Carl is here. His style has always been to sign enough veteran FA's to win 6 or 7 games even in the bad years. People make jokes about filling the stadium but he does care about that and doesn't wanna go completely young and have a 4-12 year.
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09-11-2006, 11:30 AM	#3
Archie F. Swin This is the way Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Casino cash: $9975673	Rebuild? Christ...three quarters of this team is solid...what's with you people?!!!! Yesterday we found out what happens when your O-line is average at best. If you can't make it happen at the line of scrimmage, you can't make it happen. Gawd almighty!!! All you mutherfukcers can send me your season tickets... __________________ "No Two People Will Do It The Same, You got It Down...When You Appear to Be In Pain!"
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09-11-2006, 11:32 AM	#9
ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $2348752	Wow it keeps getting more idiots on here. I dont blame them at all for not blowing a team up heck look at our team now its basically set up for the future with the free agents filling wholes. Our defense is filled with young players, heck by next season we could be seeing most of our lineup with players we have drafted since 2003. And our offense is slowly doing the same.
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09-11-2006, 11:38 AM	#10
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7928717	We won't be rebuilding until next year. This year we are a just below average football team...heh __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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09-11-2006, 11:49 AM	#11
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Herm took over for Al Groh, not Parcells. Two years prior to Edwards they were 8-8 and 9-7, so it's not like we're talking about a good team. Jets fans talk like he killed their long storied franchise, but we're talking about the Jets, for Christ's sakes. They have a long, proud history of suck. And it was one game. There's 15 more.
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09-11-2006, 11:53 AM	#12
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2647050	Wiegmann looked like complete shit yesterday.....average DT's bowled him over numerous times. Sometimes when good players start getting old they fall off the face of the map, remember when the Raiders were good and old a few years ago and they all showed their age together?
Posts: 110,818

09-11-2006, 11:57 AM	#13
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Center's play is going to suffer if the tackles continue to suck. He won't have guards there to help him with Tackles that outweigh him by 40-50 pounds.
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09-11-2006, 12:04 PM	#14
Archie Bunker The Wait Is Over Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Random Small Town Casino cash: $2048978	Herm has coached one game. He has an patchwork OL and D that is improving give the man a damn chance. This season is not over. IMO Herm is the perfect person to lead the rebuilding if it happens. The best young talent is on the defensive side of the ball and that is his specialty. I think it will be easier to rebuild with a dominate D and a conservative LJ led offense(for example Bears, Ravens). It is far from hopeless. At worst this team resembles DV's first year and Herm can build it back up just like DV did.
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