Ford Invents Hybrid that is *300% more efficient* than Toyota Prius

**penguinz** · 02-13-2006, 01:16 PM

Ford is developing a new form of automotive propulsion, and the implications for the American Auto Industry are huge. The Hydraulic Hybrid could be the greatest innovation since the internal combustion engine itself, and Ford is on the inside track with its F-150 Hybrid. New Tech Spy Has learned details about the system that are simply amazing and could put Ford in a commanding position in the fiercely competitive full size pickup market.
---The Idea behind the current crop of Hybrid cars is well known; the cars main energy comes from gasoline which recharges batteries that move the car at low speeds. Hydraulic Hybrids work in the same manner, only instead of batteries, excess energy is stored in hydraulic cylinders.That in itself is not revolutionary, except for the fact that Nickel Metal Hydride batteries used today are not an efficient way to store energy, and hydraulic storage blows them away with 3X the efficiency. Even next generation Lithium Ion batteries do not come close to Hydraulic Energy Storage.
---The standard F-150 has a curb weight of about 4800 lbs., which is 65% greater than theToyota Prius, yet incredibly the Hydraulic F-150 with a continuously variable transmission matches the Prius with 60mpg city rating, that’s an amazing 400% increase over its gasoline version.
---The F-150 makes for a perfect host for Hydraulic Hybrid technology because of its height and body on frame construction, adding this system to smaller vehicles will be challenging, but with those kind of numbers small vehicles as we know them may become obsolete...The Hydraulic F-150 is currently scheduled for launch in August of 2008, can Ford work out all the bugs by then? The people are waiting for Ford to come through in the clutch.

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**Saulbadguy** · 02-13-2006, 01:17 PM

**Gonzo** · 02-13-2006, 01:17 PM

They're going out of buisness any way so who gives a crap. My truck=14mpg and damn proud of it.
V8 baby

Hoover · 02-13-2006, 01:18 PM

about effin time!

**PHOG** · 02-13-2006, 01:22 PM

We'll se what the oil gurus have to say about this..

Hoover · 02-13-2006, 01:25 PM

I think we are seeing the car guys tell the oil guys to fu@k off, because the consumer, for the first time ever in concerned about MPG

**PHOG** · 02-13-2006, 01:30 PM

Well, it's only about 30 years overdue, and you may be right..just look at the record profits of anything oil related.

Could they see the writing on the wall, and taking their last gasp at gouging us?

I'm skeptical, but hopeful.

Inspector · 02-13-2006, 01:31 PM

I've been working on the latest rubber band technology. The possibilities are enormous.

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2006, 01:34 PM

skeptical but hopeful too

any progress away from fossil fuel is a good one imo.

if they can do this with a heavy truck, what kind of MPG will they get with smaller,lighter cars?

htismaqe · 02-13-2006, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

if they can do this with a heavy truck, what kind of MPG will they get with smaller,lighter cars?

Right now, none.

These hydaulic power units won't fit in smaller, lighter cars yet.

teedubya · 02-13-2006, 01:41 PM

Oh wow.

**Skip Towne** · 02-13-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Right now, none.

These hydaulic power units won't fit in smaller, lighter cars yet.

They will figure out a way to do it if it pans out for Ford.

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2006, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Right now, none.

These hydaulic power units won't fit in smaller, lighter cars yet.

ahh ... i see, thanks

people are great at making stuff smaller ... shouldn't be too long IF they really want to make them.

htismaqe · 02-13-2006, 01:48 PM

What will happen is that Ford will unveil the technology in the F150 and Toyota or Honda will figure out a way to make it smaller...

After all, that's what they're good at, according to Reggie White.

Eleazar · 02-13-2006, 01:49 PM

I'll believe it when I see it... but hopefully I see it.

I can't help but wonder, if Ford is working on this how many other automakers are working on the next generation hybrids? It seems like it's usually other makers who are the innovators in features, so someone is probably a step ahead.

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