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Deberg_1990 · 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

Chiefnj2 · 03-17-2010, 11:55 AM

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And another question...Why didn't Locke become Smokey and just go over there himself and see whats on the island?

Because he had an inkling they had those electric fence thingamajigs with them?

**BigRedChief** · 03-17-2010, 12:55 PM

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Because he had an inkling they had those electric fence thingamajigs with them?

So, he could see them before he encountered one. they are not hidden.

tymania · 03-17-2010, 01:08 PM

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Because he had an inkling they had those electric fence thingamajigs with them?

maybe the fence thing will kill him? or he knows that whitmore knows how to kill him!? and doesnt want to walk into a trap?

Third Eye · 03-17-2010, 01:22 PM

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maybe the fence thing will kill him? or he knows that whitmore knows how to kill him!? and doesnt want to walk into a trap?

Or possibly he knew exactly what was going on over there and was just testing Sawyer's loyalties.

tymania · 03-17-2010, 01:42 PM

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Or possibly he knew exactly what was going on over there and was just testing Sawyer's loyalties.

good point!

**Baby Lee** · 03-17-2010, 02:33 PM

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Or possibly he knew exactly what was going on over there and was just testing Sawyer's loyalties.

Or he just wanted a chance for Claire to attack Kate, him to 'rescue her' and then get some alone time with Kate to 'make his case.'

PhillyChiefFan · 03-18-2010, 06:11 AM

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Or possibly he knew exactly what was going on over there and was just testing Sawyer's loyalties.

I think that's it right there.

He needed to know that Sawyer was going to be a man of his word and help him (smokey).

But here's the weird thing about that. Both Whitmore and MIB KNEW that Sawyer is a lier, and was probably going to be a double agent for smokey (at least in his mind, cause I don't think Sawyer knew that Whitmore knew he was full of sh*t. )

You could see it in Whitmore's eyes when they shook hands.

Chiefnj2 · 03-18-2010, 07:16 AM

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I think that's it right there.

He needed to know that Sawyer was going to be a man of his word and help him (smokey).

But here's the weird thing about that. Both Whitmore and MIB KNEW that Sawyer is a lier, and was probably going to be a double agent for smokey (at least in his mind, cause I don't think Sawyer knew that Whitmore knew he was full of sh*t. )

You could see it in Whitmore's eyes when they shook hands.

I'm still irked by the fact that Ben was aligned with Jacob and Ben was fighting against Widmore (similar to MIB v. Smokey with certain unknown "rules"). Why is Widmore suddenly against Locke/Smokey? A three way battle for power?

tymania · 03-18-2010, 07:38 AM

Why was Widmore after Ben in the first place? Because he kicked him off the island right? Then Ben went after Widmore because he blamed Alex’s Death on him. So whatever came of all that? Did they make peace? Or Ben got occupied with trying to get back to the island and just left it alone?

Chiefless · 03-18-2010, 07:45 AM

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I'm still irked by the fact that Ben was aligned with Jacob and Ben was fighting against Widmore (similar to MIB v. Smokey with certain unknown "rules"). Why is Widmore suddenly against Locke/Smokey? A three way battle for power?

This is kind of what I think. If MIB and Jacob represent Yin and Yang needing to be in perfect balance and harmony, then perhaps Whitmore represents chaos or nothingness??? I'm thinking MIB and Jacob (or their successors) will join forces to destroy Whitmore, thereby returning the island to balance.

cookster50 · 03-18-2010, 01:25 PM

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Is it news/ a reveal that Widmore is against the MIB? I always thought that Widmore was against Ben, and Ben was aligned with Jacob, thus Widmore was an ally with MIB.

Who says Widmore is against MIB? Just because he accepted Sawyers plan doesn't mean anything, not with lost.

Wrasse · 03-18-2010, 01:43 PM

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Who says Widmore is against MIB? Just because he accepted Sawyers plan doesn't mean anything, not with lost.

I casually watch the show (so I'm not as insightful as some of you) but do spend some time reading this thread since it happens to be where I get most of my Chiefs news...anyhooo...

I have this feeling Widmore is trying to strike a deal with FLock. He's a guy with a lot of money who is staring his own mortality in the face. He's trying to buy his way into being the protector/candidate to take over for FLock and ready to provide the guy with transportation off of the island *if* he can fill that role of the protector of the island (and get the added benefits of immortality, smokey-form-ho!, etc.). Again, I see more Myst (old PC game) tie ins. I'm also under the impression that BOTH Jacob and FLock are not necessarily 'good'. They just want out of this world in which they have been trapped (reason? ...hope we find out next week) and are willing to screw with as many lives as they can in order to get what they want. It's all a game to them in order to get the hell out of this prison in which they are trapped. I also think both can assume a smokey form...maybe...I dunno...island keeper/enslavee perk? Personally, Jacob seems like more of the douche out of the two. He really has screwed up some people's lives in this whole 'process'.

Chiefnj2 · 03-23-2010, 09:21 PM

Interesting to learn Richard's backstory, but it was a bit withdrawn and we didn't learn much. Jacob brings people to the Island, MIB wants out, and they have been competing against each other for hundreds of years.

In a past episode when we first saw MIB and Jacob wasn't the Black Rock sailing in calm water off the island during the day? In today's episode it is "drawn" to the island in the middle of the night in a huge storm.

KingPriest2 · 03-23-2010, 09:37 PM

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Interesting to learn Richard's backstory, but it was a bit withdrawn and we didn't learn much. Jacob brings people to the Island, MIB wants out, and they have been competing against each other for hundreds of years.

In a past episode when we first saw MIB and Jacob wasn't the Black Rock sailing in calm water off the island during the day? In today's episode it is "drawn" to the island in the middle of the night in a huge storm.

It was assumed it was the Back Rock Did you notice it was the Black Rock that knocked the statue down?

Silock · 03-23-2010, 10:26 PM

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Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7913688	Interesting to learn Richard's backstory, but it was a bit withdrawn and we didn't learn much. Jacob brings people to the Island, MIB wants out, and they have been competing against each other for hundreds of years. In a past episode when we first saw MIB and Jacob wasn't the Black Rock sailing in calm water off the island during the day? In today's episode it is "drawn" to the island in the middle of the night in a huge storm. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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