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Old 12-01-2012, 08:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-02-2012, 08:23 PM   #2311
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look at this way, had he not shot himself in the parking lot, and was arrested for murder, nobody would be making those t-shirts if he was alive sitting in jail.
Precisely !

Therefore say nothing publically at all for respect for both families and grieve privately.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:23 PM   #2312
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I don't understand why this is so hard to comprehend.
Mind boggling, isn't?
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:24 PM   #2313
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Wow dude, I hope your wife keeps all firearms away from you tonight. No need for you to go full Belcher on anyone...

It was simple ****ing question, no need to ****ing meltdown like some asshat about it. MUron dumbass...

Go **** yourself with a rusty aids tree. Dumbass ****tard...
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:25 PM   #2314
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:26 PM   #2315
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Ok, but you must realize that others will not view the actions of a murderer through the prism of your personal experience. And if you had acted on your impulse, it is likely that 12 people would've been exactly that judgemental, and they would'be been right to be.

What should people do? Post that "gee this was an awful thing, but He was 75% good, so that's a wash?" When you do the ultimate crime you sort of forfeit that weighing process. imo.

And the first part of your post, blaming this on addiction (to what?) is just ridiculous. That's an excuse for drug crimes, but not murder.

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Old 12-02-2012, 08:27 PM   #2316
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look at this way, had he not shot himself in the parking lot, and was arrested for murder, nobody would be making those t-shirts if he was alive sitting in jail.
Exactly. Why don't people get this? How does the suicide somehow excuse the murder in people's minds? Just imagine it without the suicide if that makes the moral calculus simpler.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:27 PM   #2317
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Too Soon?
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:28 PM   #2318
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Exactly. Why don't people get this? How does the suicide somehow excuse the murder in people's minds? Just imagine it without the suicide if that makes the moral calculus simpler.
And who in the world is excusing the murder?
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #2319
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Welp, it's been an exasperatin' day. I need to go soak my penis in chocolate and pray for Geno's arrival in KC. You folks have a great night and an outstanding week.

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Old 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #2320
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Precisely !

Therefore say nothing publically at all for respect for both families and grieve privately.

In a perfect world this would happen. But grief tends to not make you think clearly.

Hell, in a perfect world none of this would have happened.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:29 PM   #2321
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Ok, but you must realize that others will not view the actions of a murderer through the prism of your personal experience. And if you had acted on your impulse, it is likely that 12 people would've been exactly that judgemental, and they would'be been right to be.

What should people do? Post that "gee this was an awful thing, but He was 75% good, so that's a wash?" When you do the ultimate crime you sort of forfeit that weighing process. imo.

And the first part of your post, blaming this on addiction (to what?) is just ridiculous. That's an excuse for drug crimes, but not murder.
So if you were to snap and kill someone in a moment of rage, and that was the only bad thing you ever did, would it erase everything else you ever did your entire life and make you a total piece of shit?

I understand people will have their own opinions, I am not defending Belcher or his actions. I am also not going to sit back and pretend I have the right to pass judgment on him. That is somebody else's job way higher up the food chain.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:30 PM   #2322
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And who in the world is excusing the murder?
Putting aside the terminology - do you condone/condemn/neither/other Bowe's posting of the t-shirt photo?
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:31 PM   #2323
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So if you were to snap and kill someone in a moment of rage, and that was the only bad thing you ever did, would it erase everything else you ever did your entire life and make you a total piece of shit?

I understand people will have their own opinions, I am not defending Belcher or his actions. I am also not going to sit back and pretend I have the right to pass judgment on him. That is somebody else's job way higher up the food chain.
Who?
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:32 PM   #2324
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And who in the world is excusing the murder?
I have now seen post claiming people are excusing the murder, that Belcher has been made into a martyr and that people are defending his actions.

I have yet to see one post doing any of the above.
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Old 12-02-2012, 08:33 PM   #2325
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