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Old 11-17-2017, 08:24 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***

It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | Team TBD, contract TBD
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3B | Mike Moustaskas | Team TBD, contract TBD
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CF | Lorenzo Cain | Team TBD, contract TBD
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RP | Mike Minor | Team TBD, contract TBD
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SP | Jason Vargas | Team TBD, contract TBD
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SS | Alcides Escobar | Team TBD, contract TBD
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#36 (Competitive Balance Round A)
TBD: Compensation Picks for Hosmer, Moustakas, Cain. Will slot between I) first round and competitive balance for players signing over $50 million guaranteed. II) Slot after round 2 for players under $50 million guaranteed.

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2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:07 PM   #91
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Acuna appears safe. I'm not sure MLB could've come up with any basis at all to strip them of his rights apart from "**** you, that's why".



But yeah, it seems pretty apparent that they're losing their entire 2016 international signing class. Maitan hurts the worst but that 2016 class was seen to be the foundation of their rebuild and widely regarded as one of the better international signing classes of the last several years. That's gonna sting for awhile.

Anthopoulos is going to have to move some arms from within their tremendous depth of Starting Pitching prospects to supplement the bats now.

Albies , Swanson, Acuna, and Freeman are a nice grouping, but they need another guy or two around that group to really make a run over the next 5-6 years.


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Old 11-21-2017, 04:25 PM   #92
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Anthopoulos is going to have to move some arms from within their tremendous depth of Starting Pitching prospects to supplement the bats now.

Albies , Swanson, Acuna, and Freeman are a nice grouping, but they need another guy or two around that group to really make a run over the next 5-6 years.


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The problem is that Swanson may not actually be that good afterall. I like Albies well enough but you always get a little wary when someone performs a lot better over a small sample as you expected (then again, not falling flat on your face as a 20 yr old in the big leagues is pretty damn impressive either way).

Honestly, if they could move Freeman they would be wise to do so. This whole thing puts their rebuild behind Freeman's prime. They need to re-set their clock to 4-5 years away because if nothing else this costs them a ton of organizational capital that could've been flipped to help the big league roster now.

I know you don't want to rebuild right after a rebuild, but if they could flip Freeman and Inciarte for the kind of hauls that Eaton returned, they could get their age/service time all lined back up for a push in 2022 or so.

I don't see a path forward for a team centered on Freeman and I think Inciarte's contract makes him too valuable to hold on to for a 90 loss team. When the Cardinals inevitably strike out on Stanton due to organizational cowardice/hubris, they would be well served to package some of that prospect/pitching depth and make a call to Atlanta to see if Reyes/Freeman gets some traction. Freeman's probably worth about $25-30 million more than his contract over the next 4 years which isn't a ton of surplus value but it certainly carries some weight. Reyes comes with 5 years of control, though one of them will be hampered by his rehab next season. 4 'full boat' years of Reyes at pre-arb/arb levels is probably a pretty nice return for 4 years of Freeman at an 80% discount.

And if Inciarte could be moved to a team like the Yankees who could use a table-setter and longer term answer in CF. If they can get Otani, they may well be willing to make a move like Sheffield and Acevedo for a nice young CFer with a ton of under-valued team control like Inciarte.

Suddenly the Braves would have a hell of a lot of young arm talent in their system and have freed up some payroll to make another move in a couple years when their rebuild will have clearer picture. I know arms were already their strength but I think that's how you have to operate if you're rebuilding. Get the pitching, find out what your foundation is (due to the attrition rate of arms) and then if needed, supplement with trades.

Things are just too hazy for them to move arms right now, IMO.
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Old 11-21-2017, 04:38 PM   #93
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:28 PM   #95
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I can't believe they are going to try and re-sign Hosmer. Huge mistake blow this thing up like the Astros did.
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Old 11-21-2017, 05:44 PM   #96
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I can't believe they are going to try and re-sign Hosmer. Huge mistake blow this thing up like the Astros did.
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I can't believe they are going to try and re-sign Hosmer. Huge mistake blow this thing up like the Astros did.
They are going to price enforce and make sure they at least make a public effort. If the market doesn't come together and they can get him cheaper than expected, they'll be there.

But if Boras gets his bidding war, the Royals will bow out pretty quickly. I don't expect they'll go over 5/$100 and I figure he'll demand more term than that.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:14 PM   #98
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They are going to price enforce and make sure they at least make a public effort. If the market doesn't come together and they can get him cheaper than expected, they'll be there.

But if Boras gets his bidding war, the Royals will bow out pretty quickly. I don't expect they'll go over 5/$100 and I figure he'll demand more term than that.
I remember when the market didn't come together for Gordon either. Not saying he will be that bad but in 3-5 years he will suffer from a sharpe decline. That's deveststing for a team like the Royals.
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What the Royals should do is take a real good look into those prospects from the Braves that are declared free-agents. They're definitely young and wouldn't cost much, IMHO.
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Old 11-22-2017, 07:04 AM   #103
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The whining becomes "No!"

I believe it. Everyone says it. Our daughter is strong-willed and already very fond of "No." they're both strong-willed, for that matter.

Re: Maitan, yes, KC should absolutely look at signing him if they have the space available in their 2018 pool (some of that has already been planned/allocated, I'd imagine. Have to protest relationships and can't easily just back out of things).
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Your daughter's post in this thread was better than anything Dane posted earlier, so she's got that going for her.
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Your daughter's post in this thread was better than anything Dane posted earlier, so she's got that going for her.
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