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Old 11-17-2017, 08:24 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***

It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out)
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3B | Mike Moustaskas | Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million
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CF | Lorenzo Cain | Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million
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RP | Mike Minor | Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million
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SP | Jason Vargas | New York Mets, 2, $16 million
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SS | Alcides Escobar | Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million
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2018 MLB Draft Picks
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#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

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2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.

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Old 01-22-2018, 04:33 PM   #751
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A bunch of whiney millionaires. I wouldn't sign any of them. How often to big contracts work out?

And the owners who would have to pay them are whiny billionaires (whose margins have grown and who have a bigger piece of the revenue pie than they did since the MLBPA was formed).
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Old 01-22-2018, 04:39 PM   #752
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I get the aging argument. But if the owners are gonna go that route, they're gonna need to bring the salary floor up a bunch

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Old 01-22-2018, 05:22 PM   #753
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And the owners who would have to pay them are whiny billionaires (whose margins have grown and who have a bigger piece of the revenue pie than they did since the MLBPA was formed).
Yeah I get that, but there are alot of people working for billionaires who get paid jack shit nothing and you have people that are getting paid 10-15 million a year bitching because they're not getting 20-25 million a year.
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Old 01-22-2018, 05:30 PM   #754
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I could care less whether the owners or the players have more of the pie. Class warfare between billionaires and millionaires just doesn't seem worth it - no horse in that race. Just let supply / demand to do its thing. Inflated markets always even out. That's all we're seeing here.

EDIT: Sorry...inflated markets even out EXCEPT for when government involvement - intentionally or not - artificially support an inflated market. I'm looking at you, college tuition.
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Old 01-22-2018, 06:02 PM   #755
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A bunch of whiney millionaires. I wouldn't sign any of them. How often to big contracts work out?
They've worked out phenomenally well for owners, who've given huge contracts yet seen their franchise values (and revenues) skyrocket alongside.


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Old 01-22-2018, 06:28 PM   #756
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MLB.com has done the top 10 prospects at RHP, LHP, C, 1B and 2B for 2018.

Nick Pratto is our only prospect to make any of the top 10s so far, and will probably be the only one as I'm not sure we will have anyone on the top 10 for 3B, SS or OF. Came in at #4 for first basemen.


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Old 01-22-2018, 06:42 PM   #757
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Austin Jackson signed a 2 year, $6 million deal with the Giants. He's not really a $15 million player but he had a really good year last year.



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Old 01-22-2018, 08:20 PM   #758
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Likely puts a lid on any Cain signing by the Giants. Seems like he might end up going back to the Brewers - not much noise from any other teams.
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Likely puts a lid on any Cain signing by the Giants. Seems like he might end up going back to the Brewers - not much noise from any other teams.
That was my first reaction... what happens to Cain now? Not just in terms of team, but how much money is he going to get? He's older than Jackson.

The Brewers already have an issue with too many outfielders. They seem to be willing to make aggressive moves, but if they did sign an OF they'd be looking to trade someone like Domingo Santana, who was pretty good last year.
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So things cooled down with Cain to the Rangers?

I guess things have always been ice cold with every free agent.
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:52 PM   #761
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So things cooled down with Cain to the Rangers?

I guess things have always been ice cold with every free agent.
Rangers linger. I don't know how much they are driving anyone's market, though.
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Provably false. That's what NFL owners thought in 1987 when they trotted out the scabs for 3 games. Attendance immediately plunged and ratings tanked.


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MLB.com has done the top 10 prospects at RHP, LHP, C, 1B and 2B for 2018.

Nick Pratto is our only prospect to make any of the top 10s so far, and will probably be the only one as I'm not sure we will have anyone on the top 10 for 3B, SS or OF. Came in at #4 for first basemen.


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No top 100 guy.

Not surprising. Pratto didn't do enough to earn that status in his debut. I still like him, though.

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That was my first reaction... what happens to Cain now? Not just in terms of team, but how much money is he going to get? He's older than Jackson.

The Brewers already have an issue with too many outfielders. They seem to be willing to make aggressive moves, but if they did sign an OF they'd be looking to trade someone like Domingo Santana, who was pretty good last year.

I think he ends up in Milwaukee or Texas, though if I'm the Royals, I'd be thinking long and hard about taking my Hosmer money and spending it on a combo of Cain and Moustakas (at this point you can probably get both for less than what Hosmer was offered).

If the Brewers move an OF, I'd expect some combo of prospect Monte Harrison and Keon Braxton rather than Santana. And I'd expect the return to be a quality SP.

If they land Darvish in FA and add a solid #2/3 type behind him via trade, that team is built to do damage.
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