The Official "Lost" the series discussion

[Deberg_1990]

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again, another awesome episode.

1. Ellie appears to be working with Ben. That means she's working against Widmore.

2. We now find out how Widmore became to be on the island and that at one point, he was an "Other".

3. We now know why Richard Alpert was seen in the hospital the same day that John Locke was born.

4. "Jacob" has been on the island as long as Richard if not longer.

5. We're seeing the effects of time-travel sickness that affects some people (I assume it's the same sickness that affected Rousseau's crew, which means they traveled through time as well).

6. Faraday meets his mother Ellie on the island.

7. I'm closer and closer to believing that John Locke is indeed Jacob.

8. Penny & Desmond have blonde-haired son named Charlie.

9. I think we've finally discovered the source of the "voices" heard in the jungle. It's our time-traveling Losties.

I think they named him Charlie more out of respect than him ACTUALLY being the Charlie we know.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

The woman with the rifle is "Ellie".

Mrs. Hawking's (of the Church with the old computers and Foucault Pendulum in the basement, and Desmond's big jewelry shopping adventure) first name is Eloise.

Also since Charles Widmore is there too - then it makes me believe that Faraday's parents are Elle Hawkins and Charles Widmore. This would help to explain why Widmore was funding Farraday with his research.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Also since Charles Widmore is there too - then it makes me believe that Faraday's parents are Elle Hawkins and Charles Widmore. This would help to explain why Widmore was funding Farraday with his research.

That's a good theory.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by patteeu

That's a good theory.

This.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Stryker

I think they named him Charlie more out of respect than him ACTUALLY being the Charlie we know.

He's not 'Chollie' Charlie, he's his own grandpa.

[Red Brooklyn]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Again, another awesome episode.

1. Ellie appears to be working with Ben. That means she's working against Widmore.

2. We now find out how Widmore became to be on the island and that at one point, he was an "Other".

3. We now know why Richard Alpert was seen in the hospital the same day that John Locke was born.

4. "Jacob" has been on the island as long as Richard if not longer.
5. We're seeing the effects of time-travel sickness that affects some people (I assume it's the same sickness that affected Rousseau's crew, which means they traveled through time as well).

6. Faraday meets his mother Ellie on the island.

7. I'm closer and closer to believing that John Locke is indeed Jacob.
8. Penny & Desmond have blonde-haired son named Charlie.

9. I think we've finally discovered the source of the "voices" heard in the jungle. It's our time-traveling Losties.

Interesting. How do you reconcile your 4th point and your 7th point?

Also, I'm hesitant to agree with youre 4th point until we have more information. My gut tells me that you're probably right. Based on Richard's reaction to John saing he wa sent by Jacob, it's a fair assumption. But we dont' know who/what Jacob is, or even IF there really is a Jacob. So I hesitate to agree that this is "known" information. But the evidence is certainly piling up. Good post.

[The Rick]

So, based on everything we know now, any ideas on what the smoke monster is?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by The Rick

So, based on everything we know now, any ideas on what the smoke monster is?

I've been thinking about it and it seems to me that it has something to do with time travel. Maybe someone in the future is changing the past by removing those people from the present.

Considering that it appears that all of the events on the island are part of a "loop", the smoke monster might be something (or someone) trying to break the cycle.

That's all I've got at this point.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Interesting. How do you reconcile your 4th point and your 7th point?

Also, I'm hesitant to agree with youre 4th point until we have more information. My gut tells me that you're probably right. Based on Richard's reaction to John saing he wa sent by Jacob, it's a fair assumption. But we dont' know who/what Jacob is, or even IF there really is a Jacob. So I hesitate to agree that this is "known" information. But the evidence is certainly piling up. Good post.

Holy Shit.

It took me til you posting this, but that makes total sense Dane.

That makes total sense. Locke is currently on the island before 1954, I know this because there is no community set up where there once was, and there are no signs of any ruins, so its not in the future.

Maybe somehow Locke's "spirit" gets connected with the island in the way past and becomes Jacob, while he can still move through time and go other places.

I know that doesn't necessarily make sense, but what does?

Good Catch Dane.

[SAUTO]

dane with the info you keep throwing out i'm beginning to think you just might be an "other"

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

He's not 'Chollie' Charlie, he's his own grandpa.

Considering we don't know whether or not Desmond and Penny married, it's conceivable at this point to assume that the child took the last name of the mother.

Charles Widmore.

One more note: No character or name is listed on IMDB for the actor(s) that played "Charlie".

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering we don't know whether or not Desmond and Penny married, it's conceivable at this point to assume that the child took the last name of the mother.

Charles Widmore.

One more note: No character or name is listed on IMDB for the actor(s) that played "Charlie".

so penny would be charles widmore's mother not daughter?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so penny would be charles widmore's mother not daughter?

Possibly both.

Note the word, possibly.

You never know with Lost.

[Stryker]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Considering we don't know whether or not Desmond and Penny married, it's conceivable at this point to assume that the child took the last name of the mother.

Charles Widmore.

One more note: No character or name is listed on IMDB for the actor(s) that played "Charlie".

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I don't buy that. I think that he was named "Charlie" instead of "Charles" for the very reason to distinquish him from Penny's father and back to the respect of Charlie that died with Desmond in the looking glass. That would be too far fetched.


I think the reason IMBD does not have it listed is because he will be back in some form or another in future episodes.

JMO

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Stryker

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I don't buy that. I think that he was named "Charlie" instead of "Charles" for the very reason to distinquish him from Penny's father and back to the respect of Charlie that died with Desmond in the looking glass. That would be too far fetched.


I think the reason IMBD does not have it listed is because he will be back in some form or another in future episodes.

JMO

Just speculation.

Just as my post was speculation.

And as far as IMDB's concerned, that's not how it works. I know because I'm a member.