Quarterbackery: Round 2, Heat 2

[Rain Man]

Four more teams. Name the strongest and the weakest in terms of 50-year QB history.

Dallas Cowboys

Troy Aikman - 12
Tony Romo - 8
Roger Staubach - 8
Danny White - 6
Craig Morton - 3
Don Meredith - 3 (actually led team for 7 seasons, but only 3 since 1966)
Quincy Carter - 2
Steve Pelleur - 2
Matt Cassel - 1
Jon Kitna - 1
Drew Bledsoe - 1
Vinny Testaverde - 1
Chad Hutchinson - 1
Gary Hogeboom - 1

The Cowboys have produced 20 pro bowls during this period, led by Troy Aikman with 6.

Green Bay

Brett Favre - 16 seasons
Aaron Rodgers - 8
Lynn Dickey - 8
Bart Starr - 4 (Led team for 12 seasons, but only 4 since 1966)
Don Majkowski - 3
Randy Wright - 2
David Whitehurst - 2
John Hadl - 2
Scott Hunter - 2
Mike Tomczak - 1
Jerry Tagge - 1
Don Horn - 1

The Packers produced 16 pro bowls, led by Brett Favre with 9.

Indianapolis

Peyton Manning - 13 seasons
Bert Jones - 6
Andrew Luck - 4
Jim Harbaugh - 4
Jeff George - 4
Mike Pagel - 4
Johnny Unitas - 4 (led team for 14 seasons, but only 4 since 1966)
Jack Trudeau - 3
Marty Domres - 2
Earl Morrell - 2
Curtis Painter - 1
Chris Chandler - 1
Greg Landry - 1
Bill Troup - 1

The Colts produced 19 pro bowlers, led by 11 from Peyton Manning.*


Kansas City

Len Dawson - 8 (led team for 12 seasons, but only 8 since 1966)
Bill Kenney - 7
Trent Green - 5
Mike Livingston - 5
Matt Cassel - 4
Steve Deberg - 4
Alex Smith - 3 (and current starter)
Elvis Grbac - 3
Damon Huard - 2
Steve Bono - 2
Joe Montana - 2
Steve Fuller - 2
Tyler Thigpen - 1
Rich Gannon - 1
Dave Krieg - 1

The Chiefs produced 14 pro bowlers during this span, led by Len Dawson with 5.

[Psyko Tek]

wow, set kc up to lose first round,

cold but true

[jjchieffan]

Gotta go with Indy, though Green Bay is a very close second. Johnny Unitas top 3 QB of all time, then Manning forever. Top 10 QB. Now Luck, who could well end up being one of the best too. That edges out Green Bay, but just barely. Bart Starr, Brett Favre, nor Rodgers. Those 2 teams should not be facing each other this early. They have been extremely blessed in the QB department. KC wasn't going to make it far anyway, but this is a murderers row. And for those if you both g for Dallas, wow. I thought people on this board knew football. Stabach was one of the greats for sure. But Aikman was nothing but a product of a great system that looked good behind a monster offensive line chucking it up to Irving and handing off to Smith. Alex Smith would've been a hall of fame in his shoes! Romo is certainly not as good as the guys at Green Bay and Indy. I don't see it. How is Dallas currently leading?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Gotta go with Indy, though Green Bay is a very close second. Johnny Unitas top 3 QB of all time, then Manning forever. Top 10 QB. Now Luck, who could well end up being one of the best too. That edges out Green Bay, but just barely. Bart Starr, Brett Favre, nor Rodgers. Those 2 teams should not be facing each other this early. They have been extremely blessed in the QB department. KC wasn't going to make it far anyway, but this is a murderers row. And for those if you both g for Dallas, wow. I thought people on this board knew football. Stabach was one of the greats for sure. But Aikman was nothing but a product of a great system that looked good behind a monster offensive line chucking it up to Irving and handing off to Smith. Alex Smith would've been a hall of fame in his shoes! Romo is certainly not as good as the guys at Green Bay and Indy. I don't see it. How is Dallas currently leading?

We'll get it out of the way fast, but yeah, KC is the weakest in this group and it's not even close.

When I look at the strongest, I think about the following:

How many years of Hall of Fame caliber play?
How many years of good play?
How many years of adequate play?
How many years of QB hell?

I look at Dallas and I see this:

20 Hof/11 good/9 okay/10 hell

I look at GB and I see this:

28 Hof/0 good/11 okay/11 hell

I look at Indy and I see this:

17 Hof/12 good/8 okay/13 hell


All HoF isn't equal, of course. Indy has the best HoFers but not as many. Dallas' are probably the weakest, but they had some really good QBs who weren't HoFers.

I voted for Dallas, but as I look, I can see a good argument for Green Bay. It's close.

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Psyko Tek

wow, set kc up to lose first round,

cold but true

They set themselves up to lose. Over and over.

[KChiefs1]

The Chiefs with no shot.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

We'll get it out of the way fast, but yeah, KC is the weakest in this group and it's not even close.

When I look at the strongest, I think about the following:

How many years of Hall of Fame caliber play?
How many years of good play?
How many years of adequate play?
How many years of QB hell?

I look at Dallas and I see this:

20 Hof/11 good/9 okay/10 hell

I look at GB and I see this:

28 Hof/0 good/11 okay/11 hell

I look at Indy and I see this:

17 Hof/12 good/8 okay/13 hell


All HoF isn't equal, of course. Indy has the best HoFers but not as many. Dallas' are probably the weakest, but they had some really good QBs who weren't HoFers.

I voted for Dallas, but as I look, I can see a good argument for Green Bay. It's close.

I guess that since Aikman was inducted into the HOF, that his years are considered HOF. But I disagree. He was mediocre and didn't deserve it. Therefore, Dallas ranks lower in my opinion.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I guess that since Aikman was inducted into the HOF, that his years are considered HOF. But I disagree. He was mediocre and didn't deserve it. Therefore, Dallas ranks lower in my opinion.

I would definitely call him a lower-tier Hall of Famer.

I dunno. Maybe I should've gone with Green Bay. Maybe we should do a year by year comparison.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

This poll is shaping up exactly as it should.

Dallas up,

KC ho's down.

[Rain Man]

I think the Matt Cassel years might be dragging KC down a bit.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by wazu

They set themselves up to lose. Over and over.