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Old 08-11-2014, 03:51 PM  
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Ed Harris takes Top villain role in HBOs "Westworld" reboot

Sweet. Loved this film when I was a kid. It's ripe for a reboot.

Doesn't sound like he's playing the Yul Brenner role though

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Ed Harris is coming to series TV: The Abyss and Apollo 13 actor has signed on as the Big Bad in HBO’s Westworld reboot.
The four-time Oscar nominee’s character is called The Man in Black, and is described as “the distillation of pure villainy into one man.” He joins previously cast star — and fellow series television newcomer—Anthony Hopkins, along with Evan Rachel Wood, Jeffrey Wright, and Shannon Woodward.

The Warner Bros.-produced sci-fi pilot produced by J.J Abrams, Jerry Weintraub, and Bryan Burk updates Michael Crichton’s 1973 classic film about a theme park where androids fulfill dark human desires. Harris’ description might sound like he’s playing the Yul Brynner killer-cowboy robot role, but it seems like actor Rodrigo Santoro was tapped for that part—and online production rumors suggest The Man in Black is actually a human character who sadistically abuses the androids.

Harris will soon be seen the feature film Run All Night, starring opposite Liam Neeson and Joel Kinnaman. Harris won a Golden Globe and was nominated for an Emmy for his work in HBO’s Game Change.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:42 PM   #61
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:46 PM   #62
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2nd episode delivered for me. 1st episode was fine for getting oriented with the landscape, and not a criticism outside of it just didn't have that 1 scene that delivers the hook. To be fair, the story premise is already the hook.

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Old 10-11-2016, 08:55 PM   #63
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Old 10-11-2016, 09:01 PM   #64
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Good point about farm vs. world.

Either way, I haven't seen the original since I was a teenager. Don't remember the full storyline, and don't want to rewatch until after at least the first season!
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Old 10-11-2016, 10:22 PM   #65
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... as Billy's friend said he was really interested in finding out who William really is.
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Old 10-11-2016, 11:41 PM   #66
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Holy shit that theory... that would be awesome.

Sad I didn't catch the player piano tune this time around.

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Old 10-12-2016, 12:15 AM   #67
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I'm sure everyone picked up the violent ends quote triggers the glitch and effectively spreads the awakening from "host" to new "host".
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Old 10-12-2016, 01:21 AM   #68
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Old 10-12-2016, 11:27 AM   #69
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I'm sure everyone picked up the violent ends quote triggers the glitch and effectively spreads the awakening from "host" to new "host".
Yep, and you'd think this would spell doom for the host, as it did for Delores' father. However, 2 hosts that are "infected" are clearly stars of the show, so interested to see how this evolves.
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Yep, and you'd think this would spell doom for the host, as it did for Delores' father. However, 2 hosts that are "infected" are clearly stars of the show, so interested to see how this evolves.
Didn't they say her father used to be part of a cannibal cult storyline and a bunch of other messed up characters previously?

Each host may be different including how much trauma there is from all of a sudden recalling A LOT of terrible shit flooding in at once.
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What is the significance of the bartender appearing to have black hair in the first episode but then having grey hair in the second episode? It looked like the same guy, just older.
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I half love, half HATE, the fact that Abrams is apparently delving back into the narrative possibilities of the conflation of reality, fiction and fictionalized reality.

On one hand, in their beginning stages the storylines spark the imagination and turn the viewing process into an individualized creative process of its own as you dream up 'fanfic' of what it all means.

On the other hand we have LOST, the elephant in the room. The show where all that narrative world-building turned out to be a Potemkin village erected to mask the fact that they had no idea what they were doing in the end.

That said, here's preview footage.

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Old 10-13-2016, 03:23 AM   #73
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This is exactly the kind of musing I'm talking about.

In an Abrams world, this kind of detail could be a CRUCIAL plot twist [or meta-narrative insight], or it could be a simple lapse on the continuity coordinator's part, . . . or it could be a once-upon-a-time crucial detail that got abandoned when the writers change their minds, and years from now they'll slyly hint it was a continuity error. . . or was it!!!!!?????

In the moment, it's compelling and satisfying to chew through the narrative details looking for meaning, Only time will tell if we're all a bunch of armchair Sherlocks, or a pile of dumb animals chasing their tails on the porch.
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This discussion reminds me of a philosophical quandary that seems to be percolating back up around the show.


What is more terrifying to you

An AI that passes the Turing test?
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An AI that deliberately fails the Turing test?
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Old 10-13-2016, 09:10 AM   #75
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This discussion reminds me of a philosophical quandary that seems to be percolating back up around the show.


What is more terrifying to you

An AI that passes the Turing test?
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An AI that deliberately fails the Turing test?
How is the 2nd option not always the answer?

Exhibiting deception means that the new entity has already bitten from the apple and fallen.

I guess you can take consolation in the fact that it happened so quickly that we were predestined to fail and doomed from the start.

It is an interesting premise to present self awareness in an AI as a glitch, and the commentary as it translates to humanity and our relationship to nature, our environment, and one another.
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