Football Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown' - Page 102

Mr. Laz · 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM

Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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**Donger** · 02-14-2014, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

He did overreact. But the same reason he over-reacted is what made Incognito pick him out for especially over-the-top bullying.

You think anybody tells Ray Lewis / Ndamukung Suh / etc. the stuff they were saying to Martin? Of course not. Those guys would bash your face into a sink until you had no teeth left and then start the beating. But Martin WAS a pussy, by NFL-locker room standards, and he wasn't mentally equipped to take it (obviously).

But that doesn't excuse Incognito in any way. He's obviously a turd of a human being, and deserves what he got, and to have his career end in ignominy.

I don't disagree. He seems like an immature, juvenile thug.

Brock · 02-14-2014, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater

Yup. I can't believe people see the report, and STILL side with Incognito chalking it up to "that's the way it is in NFL" and think it's acceptable.

It isn't acceptable, but it sounds like the guy didn't have the mental and physical toughness to deal with playing in the nfl. If he's intimidated by neanderthals in his own locker room how's he supposed to deal with Terrell Suggs on Sunday?

Mr. Laz · 02-14-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I don't think it's acceptable, but I do think that Martin seems to have over-reacted to Icognito's stupid behavior.

I wonder if Incognito stopped teasing the trainer after being told to stop.

if you had to go to work/school EVERY day knowing that you would be scared all day and have to deal with bullying shit, you might think different.

I imagine it built up over time.

a single drop is no big deal, a 1000 single drops is chinese water torture

Steron · 02-14-2014, 01:53 PM

In read each of the 144 pages in the report.

Incognito, Jerry, and Pouncey are certainly not absolved of any wrong doing as the released text messages might make us believe.

**Donger** · 02-14-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

if you had to go to work/school EVERY day knowing that you would be scared all day and have to deal with bullying shit, you might think different.

I imagine it built up over time.

a single drop is no big deal, a 1000 single drops is chinese water torture

Perhaps, I wouldn't know.

But, I do find it a little comical that a guy who pushed people around as his profession didn't chose to push back more forcefully. There are always going to be assholes. How you deal with them is up to you.

Mr. Laz · 02-14-2014, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Perhaps, I wouldn't know.

But, I do find it a little comical that a guy who pushed people around as his profession didn't chose to push back more forcefully. There are always going to be assholes. How you deal with them is up to you.

first, bigger doesn't have anything to do with the emotional aspect
secondly, the guys giving him shit were just as big and strong

incognito is also bat shit crazy which would make it even more difficult. No telling what a crazy person will do.

Steron · 02-14-2014, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

first, bigger doesn't have anything to do with the emotional aspect
secondly, the guys giving him shit were just as big and strong

incognito is also bat shit crazy which would make it even more difficult. No telling what a crazy person will do.

Not to mention it was Incognito with Jerry and Pouncey backing him up.

**Donger** · 02-14-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

first, bigger doesn't have anything to do with the emotional aspect
secondly, the guys giving him shit were just as big and strong

incognito is also bat shit crazy which would make it even more difficult. No telling what a crazy person will do.

No disagreement, but I just wonder now if Martin wishes he had fought back, even if it meant an ass kicking, instead of having the mess that exists now.

Steron · 02-14-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

No disagreement, but I just wonder now if Martin wishes he had fought back, even if it meant an ass kicking, instead of having the mess that exists now.

After reading the report, it would appear he approached this subject with his parents. He complained to them that he was being 'punked'. His father told him he dealt with bullies by punching one in the face and kicking another in the balls.

I'll bet he wishes he had stood up for himself now.

ChiefRocka · 02-14-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Perhaps, I wouldn't know.

But, I do find it a little comical that a guy who pushed people around as his profession didn't chose to push back more forcefully. There are always going to be assholes. How you deal with them is up to you.

He was better at pass pro and not a run mauler

NewChief · 02-14-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Perhaps, I wouldn't know.

But, I do find it a little comical that a guy who pushed people around as his profession didn't chose to push back more forcefully. There are always going to be assholes. How you deal with them is up to you.

He actually talks about that in the report and anguishes over it. Texts between his mom and him talk about how he's been like that since an early age. That in middle school, even though he was bigger than everyone else, he'd let people **** with him and just smile and take it because he was more concerned with them liking him. He was afraid if he fought back and struck out at them, they wouldn't like him. It's a pretty common issue with big guys who are usually clumsy and awkward at a young age, as such they get conditioned in a certain way to be big babies.

Just Passin' By · 02-14-2014, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Kind of curious about the origin of this meme.

I've noticed Hardwick using it on @midnight.

'This is crazy, because internet!!'

'Awww so sad, because emotion.'

Do you remember where you came across it first?

The first place I recall seeing it was in the comments section of a news site, but I can't recall which one.

**Donger** · 02-14-2014, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

He actually talks about that in the report and anguishes over it. Texts between his mom and him talk about how he's been like that since an early age. That in middle school, even though he was bigger than everyone else, he'd let people **** with him and just smile and take it because he was more concerned with them liking him. He was afraid if he fought back and struck out at them, they wouldn't like him. It's a pretty common issue with big guys who are usually clumsy and awkward at a young age, as such they get conditioned in a certain way to be big babies.

That sucks. He obviously didn't make very good choices.

**Baby Lee** · 02-14-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, Incognito's the real victim here because he's white and Jonathan Martin is a pussy for not standing up to him.

Chiefsplanet...

What lead you to that leap?

I wouldn't say RI is a victim, he just wasn't attuned to JM's sensitivity.

Probably Q, but we have a smaller scale version of this dynamic in my immediate family. We all remember every stupid thing the others have said or done and we get on jags of breaking balls over it until we can't see from tears rolling laughing.

Grandma sees this from the outside and gets very irritated about how mean we are to each other.

Chiefspants · 02-14-2014, 02:29 PM

All of this falls on the Dolphins front office and coaching staff.

When Zack Greinke returned to the majors after taking a year off to deal to seek help for his struggles with social anxiety, no one on Chiefsplanet was calling Zack a pu**y, to the contrary, they were calling both he and the Royals FO heroic for the way they came together to find a solution for Zack's struggle.

This is all on the Dolphins coaches for tolerating and encouraging Incognito's behavior.

All of you calling a Martin a pu**y should be ashamed of yourselves, the act victim blaming is absolutely inexcusable and runs rampant through our society. If he were your child, you would have sided with Martin each and every time. Kudos to Jonathan for seeking help before it was too late.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown' Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown' By Dan Hanzus Around the League Writer Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m. An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week. NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources. Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground." The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources. Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday. The "Around The League Podcast" is now available on iTunes! Click here to listen and subscribe.
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02-14-2014, 01:53 PM	#1519
Steron Texting Ms. Dobbs Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Casino cash: $9418246	In read each of the 144 pages in the report. Incognito, Jerry, and Pouncey are certainly not absolved of any wrong doing as the released text messages might make us believe.
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02-14-2014, 02:29 PM	#1530
Chiefspants World's Best Boss Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bronco Country Casino cash: $5654654	All of this falls on the Dolphins front office and coaching staff. When Zack Greinke returned to the majors after taking a year off to deal to seek help for his struggles with social anxiety, no one on Chiefsplanet was calling Zack a pu*y, to the contrary, they were calling both he and the Royals FO heroic for the way they came together to find a solution for Zack's struggle. This is all on the Dolphins coaches for tolerating and encouraging* Incognito's behavior. All of you calling a Martin a pu**y should be ashamed of yourselves, the act victim blaming is absolutely inexcusable and runs rampant through our society. If he were your child, you would have sided with Martin each and every time. Kudos to Jonathan for seeking help before it was too late.
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