Chiefs Homerific Feel Good Thread

KCJohnny · 12-21-2008, 11:20 PM

OK, I'm in Korea, I didn't see the whole game, just the highlights, the post-game presser and the box score, so I did not suffer the kind of punch-in-the-gut let down in real time as most of you did as we once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

I would like to offer the following observations and insights from the perspective of a blind, deceived homer.

1. Miami hadn't given up a TD in 3 straight games. We rolled 'em for 500 yards and 31 points in weather conditions that usually produce a 13-9 type game.

2. We have lost 8 games (55%) by 7 points or less. That means we are right >< there. With 18 rookies on the roster, its only going to get better. Next year we are the '08 Dolphins. Bet on it.

3. Several key positions have been sewn up that will last this team a loooong time: WR, FB, OLT, RB(s), TE, CB, K, .05back, etc... and I might add QB and DT (Thiggy + Dorsey).

4. The key obstacle to deep and lasting change has been removed: thanks for the memories, Carl Peterson.

5. A new GM is a great thing if its the right leader. We could also Matt Millen ourselves into perpetual football agony. Stay tuned.

6. While I admit to the possibility of a HC change, I think that would be a bad decision. Herm seems to have a gift for developing the young players and motivating his team. If the Chiefs don't win 8-9 games in 2009, it might be time for a HC change.

7. Depending on whether you see the glass half empty or half full, the 2008 worst-ever-W/L record Chiefs may have accomplished something not seen since 1962: they discovered a young, talented QB who leads the team and could be around for a decade. I say develop Thigpen and spend draft picks and FA acquistions to rebuild this needy _efense.

We all knew this would be painful, but the antiCarl contingent demanded this kind of rip-it-out-by-the-roots change. The byproducts of a successful rebuild-in-progress are what is noted above: a lot of young, improving talent that is right on the verge winning nearly every game.

Yes, its a homeristic perspective, but I have to say I am encouraged. I see the foundation being laid for a team that may compete for a decade.

KCJohnny

Reerun_KC · 12-21-2008, 11:22 PM

Extra Point · 12-21-2008, 11:24 PM

Point 3: Timeliness is teh suck.

chiefbowe82 · 12-21-2008, 11:25 PM

half of me says keep herm the other half says move on, bringing in solid youth, but his gameday coaching is questionable

Deberg_1990 · 12-21-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Herm seems to have a gift for developing the young players and motivating his team.

Ive especially loved how hes developed his all world defensive line.

Reerun_KC · 12-21-2008, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Ive especially loved how hes developed his all world defensive line.

His defense that he has built is second to none... Color me impressed...

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-21-2008, 11:29 PM

You couldn't get any more friggin True Fan than that post.

Hootie · 12-21-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You couldn't get any more friggin True Fan than that post.

and who gives a shit?

Your anti-'true fan' bullshit is no better than someone like Johnny.

The self-entitlement a lot of you meccas show is ridiculous. Get over yourselves.

Reerun_KC · 12-21-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

and who gives a shit?

Your anti-'true fan' bullshit is no better than someone like Johnny.

The self-entitlement a lot of you meccas show is ridiculous. Get over yourselves.

Coming from you that is pretty funny Hootie...

KCJohnny · 12-21-2008, 11:40 PM

Its OK. I've been called a lot worse things than True Fan.

Chiefs '09.

Hootie · 12-21-2008, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Coming from you that is pretty funny Hootie...

If Herm coached this team to three straight Super Bowls you'd still root against him.

Agent V · 12-21-2008, 11:41 PM

1. Doesn't matter. We lost. A defense this bad will ensure that every game.

2. A decent coach would have WON those games. That's every anti-herm's point. This team has some young and talented players and the fact that these "competitive" games are being lost is a good indication of poor game-planning, halftime adjustments, and overall utilization and development of talent.

3. Thigpen, I am now convinced, is not the quarterback of the future. He had a great run, provided some amusement on this offense, but he's not the answer. I'm sorry. I love the kid, but you can't coach accuracy my friend. With a different quarterback coach, we could see improvement, and maybe give him a chance in 09, but I don't see it happening.

What the f**k has Dorsey done to convince you of anything?

4. Removing a single man will not solve ALL the problems. If he is the impediment to progress, and he hired Herman Edwards, then:

Carl = impediment to progress

Carl hired Herman Edwards.

Herman Edwards = impediment to progress

5. No shit.

6. The press is now acknowledging that Herm's job is in jeopardy. This game doesn't help. Get ready, because many (not saying all) signs are pointing to a shift.

7. I love Thigpen, but I'm not sure he's the long term answer. You're deciding that way too quickly.

Reerun_KC · 12-21-2008, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

If Herm coached this team to three straight Super Bowls you'd still root against him.

If Damon Huard quit on the team in 3 straight games, you still would of continued to create hundreds of threads about him...

Luckly I dont have to worry about Herm and Superbowls...

chiefsfan4life1978 · 12-21-2008, 11:43 PM

I don't think I agree that the Kicking position is sewn up yet. Something about Connor Barth doesn't sit well with me. Maybe it's that he looks goofy as hell.

Mecca · 12-21-2008, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie

and who gives a shit?

Your anti-'true fan' bullshit is no better than someone like Johnny.

The self-entitlement a lot of you meccas show is ridiculous. Get over yourselves.

If that means I'm anti Johnny that is one of the greatest compliments I have ever received.

12-21-2008, 11:20 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Homerific Feel Good Thread OK, I'm in Korea, I didn't see the whole game, just the highlights, the post-game presser and the box score, so I did not suffer the kind of punch-in-the-gut let down in real time as most of you did as we once again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. I would like to offer the following observations and insights from the perspective of a blind, deceived homer. 1. Miami hadn't given up a TD in 3 straight games. We rolled 'em for 500 yards and 31 points in weather conditions that usually produce a 13-9 type game. 2. We have lost 8 games (55%) by 7 points or less. That means we are right >< there. With 18 rookies on the roster, its only going to get better. Next year we are the '08 Dolphins. Bet on it. 3. Several key positions have been sewn up that will last this team a loooong time: WR, FB, OLT, RB(s), TE, CB, K, .05back, etc... and I might add QB and DT (Thiggy + Dorsey). 4. The key obstacle to deep and lasting change has been removed: thanks for the memories, Carl Peterson. 5. A new GM is a great thing if its the right leader. We could also Matt Millen ourselves into perpetual football agony. Stay tuned. 6. While I admit to the possibility of a HC change, I think that would be a bad decision. Herm seems to have a gift for developing the young players and motivating his team. If the Chiefs don't win 8-9 games in 2009, it might be time for a HC change. 7. Depending on whether you see the glass half empty or half full, the 2008 worst-ever-W/L record Chiefs may have accomplished something not seen since 1962: they discovered a young, talented QB who leads the team and could be around for a decade. I say develop Thigpen and spend draft picks and FA acquistions to rebuild this needy _efense. We all knew this would be painful, but the antiCarl contingent demanded this kind of rip-it-out-by-the-roots change. The byproducts of a successful rebuild-in-progress are what is noted above: a lot of young, improving talent that is right on the verge winning nearly every game. Yes, its a homeristic perspective, but I have to say I am encouraged. I see the foundation being laid for a team that may compete for a decade. KCJohnny
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12-21-2008, 11:41 PM	#12
Agent V Bring me Geno. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	1. Doesn't matter. We lost. A defense this bad will ensure that every game. 2. A decent coach would have WON those games. That's every anti-herm's point. This team has some young and talented players and the fact that these "competitive" games are being lost is a good indication of poor game-planning, halftime adjustments, and overall utilization and development of talent. 3. Thigpen, I am now convinced, is not the quarterback of the future. He had a great run, provided some amusement on this offense, but he's not the answer. I'm sorry. I love the kid, but you can't coach accuracy my friend. With a different quarterback coach, we could see improvement, and maybe give him a chance in 09, but I don't see it happening. What the f**k has Dorsey done to convince you of anything? 4. Removing a single man will not solve ALL the problems. If he is the impediment to progress, and he hired Herman Edwards, then: Carl = impediment to progress Carl hired Herman Edwards. Herman Edwards = impediment to progress 5. No shit. 6. The press is now acknowledging that Herm's job is in jeopardy. This game doesn't help. Get ready, because many (not saying all) signs are pointing to a shift. 7. I love Thigpen, but I'm not sure he's the long term answer. You're deciding that way too quickly.
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12-21-2008, 11:43 PM	#14
chiefsfan4life1978 Be Humble...Be Humble... Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10004904	I don't think I agree that the Kicking position is sewn up yet. Something about Connor Barth doesn't sit well with me. Maybe it's that he looks goofy as hell.
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