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Old 05-22-2014, 05:54 PM  
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The Fermi Paradox - Why we haven't been contacted by aliens
Interesting read. What's your opinion?


http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:40 PM   #241
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everyone assumes that if there are aliens, that they have technology far superior to us. What if they're out there on other planets, but they are primitive and have no means to contact us. The real question is why haven't we contacted them.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:43 PM   #242
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everyone assumes that if there are aliens, that they have technology far superior to us. What if they're out there on other planets, but they are primitive and have no means to contact us. The real question is why haven't we contacted them.
The theory would suggest there are civilizations of all kinds, but given the age of our star compared to most in the galaxy, much older more advanced civilizations would/should exist and most likely do.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:45 PM   #243
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everyone assumes that if there are aliens, that they have technology far superior to us. What if they're out there on other planets, but they are primitive and have no means to contact us. The real question is why haven't we contacted them.
There are likely many aliens inferior to us, but also many superior to us. Best case scenario to us is that there are more aliens superior to us than inferior.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:47 PM   #244
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The real question is why haven't we contacted them.
Mostly because they're just way too far away.
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:48 PM   #245
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What "we" know about traversing huge distances doesn't mean JACK.

Or, maybe it does... maybe this UFO phenomenon is more of a spiritual, 4th dimension kind of thing?

My bottom line... what "our" science knows is equal to universal whale shit... it sits at the very bottom... the Bill Nyes and Seth Shostaks of the world are straight up paid stooges, even so called believers like Stanton Friedman are disinformation agents.

Giving away just enough to be seen as credible.

My God, if Bob Bigelow and the Skinwalker Ranch isn't enough to convince you... a genuine billionaire space flight champion who owns a world renowned UFO/cattle mutilation/disembodied voices etc property who's just in it for the funz?

Hahaaa the laughs on you, peabrain.

This world is sooo much more than a guy, for instance, like Sagan was willing to admit, the government paid this mans bills to be a shill.
You're very confident in your beliefs. How you square them is somewhat perplexing. I have no idea if there are other life forms out there. The vast universe we can see and who know how much we cannot would lead one to think there is more than us out there~
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Old 05-25-2014, 07:49 PM   #246
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Doesn't matter. If they got here, then their level of technology is FAR, FAR, FAR more advanced than ours. They would still have ships that would make ours look like they were standing still at top speed.
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Old 05-25-2014, 08:05 PM   #247
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There are likely many aliens inferior to us, but also many superior to us. Best case scenario to us is that there are more aliens superior to us than inferior.
Why is that the best case scenario? I'd rather be the one who dazzles than the one who is dazzled. There's a much lower chance of being enslaved.
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Why is that the best case scenario? I'd rather be the one who dazzles than the one who is dazzled. There's a much lower chance of being enslaved.
The great filter theory. It's explained in the OP in the link.
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Old 05-25-2014, 08:12 PM   #249
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The great filter theory. It's explained in the OP in the link.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh. (Nod of understanding.)
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The great filter theory. It's explained in the OP in the link.
Actually we just want to be sure the great filter is behind us. Many more advanced civilizations than us does not ensure that.
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Actually we just want to be sure the great filter is behind us. Many more advanced civilizations than us does not ensure that.
Excellent point.

I guess it would be good if the others were friendly and we could learn from their demise how to get through the Great Filter, but that's probably asking for too much.
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You're very confident in your beliefs. How you square them is somewhat perplexing. I have no idea if there are other life forms out there. The vast universe we can see and who know how much we cannot would lead one to think there is more than us out there~
Squaring my beliefs is so easy you'd flip your lid... your son the Ranger, I BET that guy isn't just swallowing any old order, he's digging into things, he's been around... its easier to believe what you see right in front of you.

I'd bet anything your son the Ranger has seen enough to make him question everything, maybe not who knows...
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Excellent point.

I guess it would be good if the others were friendly and we could learn from their demise how to get through the Great Filter, but that's probably asking for too much.
Best case is there's one super advanced civilization we bump into. They're very friendly willing to share their technology with us and make all of us immortal and not have to suffer from the normal diseases and death our species is used to.
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When I had to take a world religon class I multiplied the two independent probabilities for earth planets(number of known earth-ish exoplanets currently seen divded by total planets) and the probablility that a living life form has abstract cognitive abilities (humans are the only known living thing with this talent) and the probablility came out to .00000000000000000000002 chance that you could be a living organism on an earth like planet with the ability to do abstract thinking. All things considering Einsteins theory of spacial relativity and breaking the speed of light I'd say it's highly unlikely that there's aliens perusing around our solarsystem. Not saying it's impossible, but when I'm doing the math here it just seems a little ridiculous.
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