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*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***

Chiefsplanet’s (Proposed) 2017 Season Title: One Last Ride

Midish-Season Update (Royals 51-47, 2nd Wild Card, 1.5 GB of ALC):

We're halfway through 2017, and fittingly to the Chiefsplanet's 2017 Season Title, the Royals are all-in on what will likely be one final run with the current core. While many are worried the Royals will take a 2004 style tumble after this year, the farm system is hardly the barren wasteland it was during the Baird years. To see what's in the pipeline and what we have to look forward to, check out this exceptional list and analysis that Duncan put together of our system.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...htmlview#gid=0

While I had the honor of starting this thread this year, Duncan will always have a VIP pass to this OP, and can add more content at any time.

2017's Burning Questions Revisited:

1. What is the threshold between being “buyers” and “sellers” at the deadline?

We're buyers, baby.

In April, I argued that it would be a wise strategy for us to sell if we were 5 GB or worse, but that Dayton would likely add supplemental pieces for us to load up for another run if we were 1-2 GB. On July 24th, the Royals found themselves in sole possession of the 2nd wild card spot and 1.5 games back of the division. In April I said the Royals might pull the trigger on someone like Alex Cobb and resign Luke Hochevar, but since the Rays are also buyers and Luke's shoulder hasn't rebounded, this prediction hasn't come to fruition. Luckily, Dayton Moore again proved much more adept and creative than me by adding Trevor Cahill (good call, Duncan), Brandon Maurer and Ryan Buchter in a single trade. Giving us a solid starter to compete in 2017, and two relievers whom we will control through 2019 and 2021, respectively, keeping Moore's new vision through 2019-2020 intact. Moore has hinted that the Royals will continue to pursue the right deals if they're there, so the fun may not be over just yet. While we may not have the bullets to pull in a "star" like Cueto or Zo, Moore's adeptness may yet again net us what we need for another run in October.

2. Can Gordo and Moose bounce back to 2015 levels?

In April I asked if Gordo could at least set the table at a 265/325/425 clip and if Moose could deliver damage around a 265/335/500 clip for an entire year. This season Mr. Moustakas has been the prospect that was promised, delivering at a 277/307/568 clip as of this update. Gordo, on the other hand, has put up an unbelievably abysmal line thus far. But, if there is a silver lining, it's that Gordo has performed at a 246/311/432 line since June 1st, and if he can continue to perform near that mark, he will be more than a valuable asset at the bottom of the lineup while he continues to provide the best LF defense in the league.

3. Can Ned Yost manage a bullpen?

In April, I felt that despite the poor start, Royals bullpen would ultimately be "solid" this year, but the question was whether "solid" was good enough for Ned. I argued that the Royals needed Soria to bounce back and that Ned would need to start being strategic in his L/L and R/R matchups. While Ned has still made at times baffling and frustrating decisions with his starters (such as allowing Travis Wood to try to "get the win" and still insisting on sending Hammel out for the 6th, he's mostly done a good job).

MASH: Minor/Moylan - Alexander - Soria - Herrera (Credit to C3HIEF3S for the origins of the phrase) have cemented into reliable pieces, and now that Herrera is showing signs of stabilizing, our dumping of Wood, our call up Flynn, and the acquisition of Buchter and Maurer, the Royals have the potential to enter October with one of the best and deepest bullpens in the postseason.

4. Will the Royals find a boost from an unexpected X-Factor to lift them to contention?

Cool-Whit, Boni, Mike ****ing Minor, and Alexander have come up huge thus far. Cool Whit is, incredibly, is second on the team in WAR and has more than replaced Zo's presence on the team. They, like the X-Factors on the 2014-2015 teams, have been critical cogs as we've raced back to contention, while Cool-Whit and Boni also have provided a rosier outlook for this team's future. It's worth noting that Salvador Perez and Jason Vargas has been beasts on offense and the mound (along with Sal providing his customary defensive excellence), but I am still a bit wary of Salvy's annual Yost assisted offensive drought as the team moves into August, along with Vargy regressing to his averages.

5. Can Jorge Soler and Brandon Moss be productive contributors in Kauffman’s dimensions?

Ouch, no, but the Royals shift to power-hitting in the juiced ball era looks like one that will pay off. Thankfully, Moss is showing signs of entering his seasonal hot streak where he becomes corn-fed Jesus for a month, and we'll need him hot to keep up with Cleveland down the stretch. While Jorge has been painful to watch in the majors, his scorching performance in AAA should give one a bright hope for the future. While some may disagree, I offer Moose, Hos, Gordo, and Duffy's struggles as exhibit A for why it is far too early to give up on Soler's potential.

Bonus Question - Is Raul Mondesi truly ready to be an everyday player?

Ha! Not even close. However, like Soler, his progress in AAA is incredibly encouraging. With ceilings like Lindor and floors being Esky being thrown out there, it's hard not to be excited about his future.

The Picture Forward

There are many reasons to be excited, and not only for 2017. The Royals emergence of Cool Whit, Bonifacio, and Scott Alexander, and the fact that we have pieces like Salvador Perez, Danny Duffy, Kelvin Herrera, Jorge Soler, Ryan Buchter, Brandon Maurer Cheslor Cuthbert, and Raul Mondesi until at least 2019 should leave one feeling pretty optimistic. Re-up Moose or Hos (and heck, re-sign Dyson while we're at it), and suddenly this team looks very much like one that could compete for the indefinite future.

The Royals are all in again, buckle in and enjoy the ride.

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:00 PM   #3916
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His career is for all intent and purpose over. So, we traded Dyson for 2 months of an average starting pitcher.
Why? He's not a free agent until 2021.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:08 PM   #3917
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Why? He's not a free agent until 2021.
That surgery doesn't work out well for the pitchers I found.
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Not promising for him. I wouldn't count on him to ever be anything that can help the Royals.
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Old 07-15-2017, 04:21 PM   #3918
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@BHIndepMO: Brandon Moss starting over Jorge Soler vs a LHP! https://twitter.com/610sportskc/stat...02707602083841

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:22 PM   #3919
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Not promising for him. I wouldn't count on him to ever be anything that can help the Royals.
There are some who have come back well from it, notably Chris Young (who was able to stay healthy for 3-4 years in a row following the surgery, two of them being very effective).

Still pretty early in its evolution and use.

But obvious a major down sign. KC has gone from having three young, controllable guys who profiled pretty solid in spots 1-3 of its rotation, controlled for 3-4 more years (with Duffy, Ventura and Karns) to having just one of them. Brutal.
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There are some who have come back well from it, notably Chris Young (who was able to stay healthy for 3-4 years in a row following the surgery, two of them being very effective).

Still pretty early in its evolution and use.

But obvious a major down sign. KC has gone from having three young, controllable guys who profiled pretty solid in spots 1-3 of its rotation, controlled for 3-4 more years (with Duffy, Ventura and Karns) to having just one of them. Brutal.
I did see that Mike Foltynewicz has returned from it with some success so far.
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Doing something different this time: I dumped everything into a google spreadsheet, which you can access here:

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Feel free to share, but I hope my amateur-ish thoughts can be contained to this board and not others.

I ranked 1-36 guys, and have included their position, current level, upside assessment, and notes for each. All based on compiling reports from various web sources, watching video, and some statistical analysis.

Here are some highlights:

1B Nick Pratto - Pratto should move more quickly than most HS draftees due to his polish; already a professional hitter with a plan at the plate and good understanding of the strike zone, the key to his development is going to be applying that knowledge to pick pitches he can do real damage with in hitters counts; has the approach and swing to adjust to a quality two-strike approach. At his best, would project as a plus defender at 1B who hits .280+ consistently with strong OBP profile and 25-30 HR power. Power grade may seem high, but guys who understand the strike zone often get more out of their raw power than guys with more of it who hack away.

OF Khalil Lee - Powerful athlete with speed and arm to stay in RF and be a plus defender. Impressive power and plate discipline profile, paired with high K rate presently. With more contact, top 100 prospect type. Only 18, playing full season ball.

C MJ Melendez - Melendez is going to stick behind the dish, there's little doubt. He already is a good defender, and has the athleticism and plus arm to be an elite defender at the MLB level. He also has good pop from the left side of the plate, and his baseball pedigree is impressive. I'm probably too high on him, but I think we're looking at the Royals' next starting C (potentially arriving just in time to allow Salvador Perez to become a part time C/more time DH-1B in the twilight of his career).

RP Richard Lovelady - Richard (don't call him Dick) Lovelady is on a similar track as Greg Holland… undersized, late-round draftee from a small school whose stuff ticked up as a minor league bullpen piece. Big-time stuff, with mid-to-high 90s heat and a wipeout slider. He has dominated the minor leagues far more than Holland, who seemed to really have something click in the majors, and may quickly force his way up to AAA.

OF Marten Gasparini - I was told to keep ****ing doubting him, and it looks like our resident Marten fan may have been on to something. Gasparini is Mondesi-lite… he's a great athlete with tremendous tools. He got off to a horrendous start to 2017 but has improved with the bat as the weather has heated up.

CF Michael Gigliotti - First-round talent who fell after average JR season. Good speed, has defense to stay in CF (arm profiles a little lighter than liked). Good contact, OBP skills, great baserunner. Ability to drive ball at MLB level is question.

2B Esteury Ruiz - Shout-out to Clint Scoles at BP for alerting the KC internet presence to Ruiz, a scrawny 2B who was signed for a smaller bonus out of the Dominican. That grade may seem crazy, but Ruiz is a good athlete who has put up huge offensive numbers (and huge power numbers) so far (albeit at rookie ball). No Royals prospect in the Dayton Moore era can match his numbers for his level so far.



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Yeah but three of those were against the Dodgers.

If they keep playing like this, nothing anyone else does is going to matter. Another blowout tonight, Bellinger hit for the cycle. Alex Wood did not allow a run. Now 11-0 with a 1.56 ERA. They're 63 -29. That's just ridiculous.
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Yeah but three of those were against the Dodgers.

If they keep playing like this, nothing anyone else does is going to matter. Another blowout tonight, Bellinger hit for the cycle. Alex Wood did not allow a run. Now 11-0 with a 1.56 ERA. They're 63 -29. That's just ridiculous.
Wow...nuts. Royals apparently interested in JD Martinez too. Better start getting some wins now
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