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Connecticut school shooting: 18 children among 27 dead

'Close to 20' dead in Connecticut school shooting, source says
Newtown, Connecticut (CNN) -- Nearly 20 people died Friday in an elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN.

At least 10 of the dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School were children, the source said. At a news conference Friday afternoon, state police Lt. Paul Vance would say only that there had been "several fatalities."

The school was secure, and the public was not in danger, Vance said.

"Why? Why?" one woman wailed as she walked up a wooded roadway leading from the school.

A parent who was inside the school at the time of the attack said she heard what sounded like at least 100 rounds being fired. She said she saw two school employees who had died.

'I hope my mom is ok': Tweets from the Connecticut school shooting

Hospital officials in neighboring Danbury said they were treating three people wounded in the shooting. Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton said the victims were in "very serious" condition.

The shooter is dead, a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN's Susan Candiotti. The suspect's body is in a classroom at the school, the source said.

A law enforcement source with knowledge of the investigation said a male was being questioned but he is not being called a suspect.

Federal officers in tactical gear were on the scene, coordinating with local and state police. At least four ambulances remained at the school Friday afternoon.

Police have recovered two weapons from the suspect, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, the source said. It's unclear if police killed the suspect.

'It doesn't seem possible' -- parents shocked by school shooting

Police and teachers rushed students from the building as police swarmed the area shortly after the first calls came in, around 9:40 a.m. ET. Officials moved students to a nearby firehouse, where parents frantically sought information about their children.

Third-grader Alexis Wasik said police and teachers barged into her classroom and told students to hide in the corner.

"Everybody was crying," she said. "And I just heard the police officers yelling."

Aerial images from CNN affiliate News 12 New Jersey showed police officers armed with rifles following a dog into woods near the school.

Other officers, some in tactical gear, stood around the school with guns drawn, CNN affiliate WFSB reported.

All schools in the city were on lockdown Friday as police assessed the situation, Vance said.

Gov. Dan Malloy is "horrified" by what happened, a spokesman said.

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration feels "enormous sympathy" for affected families and pledged federal support for state and local law enforcement.

Newtown is about 60 miles north of New York.

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Old 12-15-2012, 11:53 AM   #1021
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Or he had a few 17 and 30 round magazines.
Um, that's my point.

That just takes it to a whole new level.

He had time to pause, get his bearings and think about what he was doing.

And he did it some more.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:55 AM   #1022
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Personally, I haven't watched any of the media coverage of this event, nor do I plan to. What happened yesterday is horrible, without a doubt. But so is the endless media saturation of events like this. Keep watching, please, following this word from our sponsors.

This is an isolated incident. Could you be next? Sure. Could your kids be next? It could happen. You might also win the lottery. Or get hit by lightening.

I'm not going to let these media whores looping the same crap over and over and over and over scare me to death or ruin my day.
I found out when I logged on here yesterday afternoon, after being out of town all morning. I dug around online and looked at as much of it as I could stand...then stopped looking.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:55 AM   #1023
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:57 AM   #1024
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and to stay on topic, yes...this is a ridiculous, disheartening, awful crime.

but lets not overreact...it's like hearing about a commercial flight crashing and then deciding right then and there you'll never fly on an airplane again...but then you drive to work every day which is far, far, far more riskier than traveling via airplane.
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:59 AM   #1026
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I tell you what I won't give my kids until they are, MAYBE, teenagers...

video games. excessive internet usage. smart phones. facebook

go out and socialize. play. ****. when I was a kid my dad used to have to drag me in late at night because I'd be out with the neighborhood kids playing football, or baseball, or basketball, or kickball, or capture the flag...anything. Christ, go egg a house with your friends for all I care...

the ****ing kids that sit at home all day on a computer or on a phone disgust me...and parents enable it
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:01 PM   #1027
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I tell you what I won't give my kids until they are, MAYBE, teenagers...

video games. excessive internet usage. smart phones. facebook

go out and socialize. play. ****. when I was a kid my dad used to have to drag me in late at night because I'd be out with the neighborhood kids playing football, or baseball, or basketball, or kickball, or capture the flag...anything. Christ, go egg a house with your friends for all I care...

the ****ing kids that sit at home all day on a computer or on a phone disgust me...and parents enable it
Start by talking to them. Be a parent.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:03 PM   #1028
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I am sure there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people like this..... BUT they don't go and do this kind of crap. This guy was 100% evil, period.
You are right on the first point. However, we've seen it reported that the Tuscon shooter, the Virginia Tech shooter, and now this shooter suffered or may have suffered from Aspergers or other disorders which led them to behave in matters that resulted in extreme violence. Disorders which saw many red flags raised for years before their massacres were acted out.

I do not think we can overlook the possible personality disorders and mental health issues which played into these horrible tragedies. To do so will simply guarantee more will occur. There is an evil component to their action but where they at heart evil people or mentally ill people? I believe one lead to the other. The question is which came first?
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I tell you what I won't give my kids until they are, MAYBE, teenagers...

video games. excessive internet usage. smart phones. facebook

go out and socialize. play. ****. when I was a kid my dad used to have to drag me in late at night because I'd be out with the neighborhood kids playing football, or baseball, or basketball, or kickball, or capture the flag...anything. Christ, go egg a house with your friends for all I care...

the ****ing kids that sit at home all day on a computer or on a phone disgust me...and parents enable it
You are losing formidable years of which you have much influence over if you do this. They will still be exposed to those things but at friend's houses where you have NO INFLUENCE. The better option is to give them those things but monitor their use and TALK TO YOUR KIDS. Know them and their friends. Be involved in their activities. I have not worked full time for over ten years because we believed our kids needed a parent involved in their lives vs. us acquiring more wealth. I'm so thankful we made this choice.
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Start by talking to them. Be a parent.
Nothing will take the place of this...
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:08 PM   #1031
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I tell you what I won't give my kids until they are, MAYBE, teenagers...

video games. excessive internet usage. smart phones. facebook

go out and socialize. play. ****. when I was a kid my dad used to have to drag me in late at night because I'd be out with the neighborhood kids playing football, or baseball, or basketball, or kickball, or capture the flag...anything. Christ, go egg a house with your friends for all I care...

the ****ing kids that sit at home all day on a computer or on a phone disgust me...and parents enable it
Better than going out getting into trouble dude.

Everything in moderation.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:11 PM   #1032
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I tell you what I won't give my kids until they are, MAYBE, teenagers...

video games. excessive internet usage. smart phones. facebook

go out and socialize. play. ****. when I was a kid my dad used to have to drag me in late at night because I'd be out with the neighborhood kids playing football, or baseball, or basketball, or kickball, or capture the flag...anything. Christ, go egg a house with your friends for all I care...

the ****ing kids that sit at home all day on a computer or on a phone disgust me...and parents enable it

I hate to sound like an old fart, "You know, back in my day...", but I think the same thing.

When I am out in our neighborhood, I see so few kids outside doing anything it's shocking. As you said, my parents used to come out screaming for us to get in thje house at night. We'd be playing baseball when it had already gotten so dark you could barely see the ball. Since I often played catcher, this could be a little hazardous. We'd play football on the paved road so we could benefit from the streetlight and get a little more playing time in...

I'm not going to say that kids being outside playing ball with other kids is any kind of answer to such violence as we saw yesterday, but it's got to be healthier than being huddled in front of a monitor killing virtual people all night.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:13 PM   #1033
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JFC! Its hard to read this stuff & not have tears form



This is Victoria. She died a hero today. She hid her first graders in the cabinets and closets after hearing the gunfire. When the shooter came to her classroom, she told him that her students were in the gym. He then gunned her down and moved on. She saved the lives of all of her students. Please pass this on if you see it. She deserves to be remembered for her bravery.
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Old 12-15-2012, 12:15 PM   #1034
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I'm not going to say that kids being outside playing ball with other kids is any kind of answer to such violence as we saw yesterday, but it's got to be healthier than being huddled in front of a monitor killing virtual people all night.
The problem isn't that the kids are doing it.

The problem is their parents are. Parents are sucked in and tuned out. Their kid asks for help with homework and mom/dad says "Ok honey! Be off World Of Warcraft in 10 minutes!"...
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This is Victoria. She died a hero today. She hid her first graders in the cabinets and closets after hearing the gunfire. When the shooter came to her classroom, she told him that her students were in the gym. He then gunned her down and moved on. She saved the lives of all of her students. Please pass this on if you see it. She deserves to be remembered for her bravery.
Wow.

What was she? 20? 24 tops?

Sad...
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