Im sick of all the excuses for LJ. . . - Page 3

10-17-2006, 11:52 AM

He's just plain not getting it done. . .yes he has alot against him and alot has gone wrong for our offense this year, but if u want to be an elite running back in the NFL it shouldnt matter. . .Its not like Barry Sanders or Eric Dickerson always had much support. . .he is just plain not running well. .. I was watching E. James run loast night and couldnt figure out which one him or LJ hits the line like more of a pussy. . .LJ still has a goiod interior line. . .and needs to start creating more for himself. . .This is coming from a big LJ fan but maybe he isnt that good maybe it is just the system we had. . .

**morphius** · 10-17-2006, 01:21 PM

I have seen way too many time when he runs and instead of a hole there are just a wall of bodies. You are not gonna get very far with that. Are there some runs he could have broke, sure, but really there isn't much there. I wish his backup wasn't hurt, we could really use that change of pace back.

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mac58

He's just plain not getting it done. . .yes he has alot against him and alot has gone wrong for our offense this year, but if u want to be an elite running back in the NFL it shouldnt matter. . .Its not like Barry Sanders or Eric Dickerson always had much support. . .he is just plain not running well. .. I was watching E. James run loast night and couldnt figure out which one him or LJ hits the line like more of a pussy. . .LJ still has a goiod interior line. . .and needs to start creating more for himself. . .This is coming from a big LJ fan but maybe he isnt that good maybe it is just the system we had. . .

I was never a big fan of LJ's. Excited last year? Yes. A devoted fan? No. All the talk about we need to get him angry is bs. It's exactly the same as "we need to pamper a star." In reasonably recent Chiefs memory we've had Priest Holmes, Kimble Anders and Marcus Allen. Guys who created their own motivation. To me a true NFL star is one who does not need outside motivation, regarless of talent.

vailpass · 10-17-2006, 01:51 PM

It usually takes a full year as a starter to evaluate a RB.

Sure-Oz · 10-17-2006, 02:25 PM

Edge and LJ should retire.....the future is now Derek Ross and Ted White baby!!!!!!!!!!

siberian khatru · 10-17-2006, 02:27 PM

Man oh man, is penchief gonna be pissed at this thread.

steelyeyed57 · 10-17-2006, 02:35 PM

I agree with many posters that teams are stacking up against the run with 8 & 9 in the box. But, those same people are saying that the offensive line is weak at run blocking. Well, lets at least give them that it's hard to block when the defense has almost double the bodies in the box. I see this as a scheme problem. We can't effectively stretch the field with a mediocre quarterback and less than adequate receivers. As a result, teams don't have to respect us down the field. They know we can still run, but they stack up to stop it, and we can't punish them for it. The dominoes tumble because of our lack of balance on offense, not entirely because of LJ or poor offensive line play.

picasso · 10-17-2006, 02:37 PM

I agree with you 100% mac58!!
And Brock, LJ must be cloggin your poop hole with as many stand up posts you've made for his tip toeing ass at the line of scrimmage on every play. Get with it man LJ is not the same so far this year. I do expect him to get better when the weather gets colder though. The thing about LJ is that DV knew he didn't have the balls to break the line in his tenure. That is why it was such a delight to see LJ beat the Raiders in the final play of the game last year on the one yard line. Because he jumped over like he was Priest!!!

Brock · 10-17-2006, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso

I agree with you 100% mac58!!
And Brock, LJ must be cloggin your poop hole with as many stand up posts you've made for his tip toeing ass at the line of scrimmage on every play. Get with it man LJ is not the same so far this year.

I think you have me mistaken for someone else, dipshit.

picasso · 10-17-2006, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by steelyeyed57

I agree with many posters that teams are stacking up against the run with 8 & 9 in the box. But, those same people are saying that the offensive line is weak at run blocking. Well, lets at least give them that it's hard to block when the defense has almost double the bodies in the box. I see this as a scheme problem. We can't effectively stretch the field with a mediocre quarterback and less than adequate receivers. As a result, teams don't have to respect us down the field. They know we can still run, but they stack up to stop it, and we can't punish them for it. The dominoes tumble because of our lack of balance on offense, not entirely because of LJ or poor offensive line play.

If they wanted balance why didn't Huard throw a pass longer than 15 yards in the first half last Sunday? Why did he wait until garbage time to complete a 21 and a 25 yard pass? We have Kennison who is a skilled receiver and can RAC with no problem. And then we have Sammie Parker who runs a 4.4 and the new Ron Gardner who looks like TO but they use him primarily on 10 yard hook routes because he can't catch a pass in traffic to save his life. Aren't all of these guys qualified to catch the deep ball? Can Huard not throw the deep ball? I would think if he can throw an accurate pass 25 yards down the field he can throw a 40 yard pass down the field. Why not the attempt to get the guys out of the box?

**Skip Towne** · 10-17-2006, 02:52 PM

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Hew bulked up in the off-season to be able to take the punishment, now it's looking like a bad idea because he lost some of his speed in the process, but make no mistake our O-line sucks ass. Waters and Shields are the only players worthy of starting. Wiggs is under-sized for straight-ahead running. Sampson can't stay healthy and is still LEARNING the position, and Black shouldn't even be collecting a paycheck-he gets pushed around and has no heart. Shields has also lost a step, he's still a pretty good player, but the past couple of years have made him appear more mortal than year's gone by. The O-line sucks.

Tell Polamalu about LJ's lack of speed. Oh, yeah, and all those guys trying to catch him on that 78 yard run. If we want LJ to get big yardage we will have to give him some space to run. About half the time he gets hit in the backfield as soon as he gets the ball. Not even Jim Brown could run over an entire defense.

picasso · 10-17-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I think you have me mistaken for someone else, dipshit.

No I don't dipshit your all over the board holding LJ cock!

**Skip Towne** · 10-17-2006, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso

No I don't dipshit your all over the board holding LJ cock!

Punctuate much?

Frankie · 10-17-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Tell Polamalu about LJ's lack of speed. Oh, yeah, and all those guys trying to catch him on that 78 yard run. If we want LJ to get big yardage we will have to give him some space to run. About half the time he gets hit in the backfield as soon as he gets the ball. Not even Jim Brown could run over an entire defense.

LJ didn't catch up with Polamalu. He caught up with his hair.

tk13 · 10-17-2006, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Tell Polamalu about LJ's lack of speed. Oh, yeah, and all those guys trying to catch him on that 78 yard run. If we want LJ to get big yardage we will have to give him some space to run. About half the time he gets hit in the backfield as soon as he gets the ball. Not even Jim Brown could run over an entire defense.

Ohhhh, now it's the O-line. Last year when you were saying Priest was washed up, that he was getting met in the backfield didn't matter. Now that's a valid excuse. Very clever.

Brock · 10-17-2006, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by picasso

No I don't dipshit your all over the board holding LJ cock!

Shouldn't be too much of a problem for you to point out all the examples then. I'll wait a little while, since I can tell you're running on low wattage.

10-17-2006, 11:52 AM
mac58 Guest Casino cash: $	Im sick of all the excuses for LJ. . . He's just plain not getting it done. . .yes he has alot against him and alot has gone wrong for our offense this year, but if u want to be an elite running back in the NFL it shouldnt matter. . .Its not like Barry Sanders or Eric Dickerson always had much support. . .he is just plain not running well. .. I was watching E. James run loast night and couldnt figure out which one him or LJ hits the line like more of a pussy. . .LJ still has a goiod interior line. . .and needs to start creating more for himself. . .This is coming from a big LJ fan but maybe he isnt that good maybe it is just the system we had. . .
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10-17-2006, 01:21 PM	#31
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6965027	I have seen way too many time when he runs and instead of a hole there are just a wall of bodies. You are not gonna get very far with that. Are there some runs he could have broke, sure, but really there isn't much there. I wish his backup wasn't hurt, we could really use that change of pace back.
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10-17-2006, 02:35 PM	#36
steelyeyed57 Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Lenox, Iowa Casino cash: $1584254	I agree with many posters that teams are stacking up against the run with 8 & 9 in the box. But, those same people are saying that the offensive line is weak at run blocking. Well, lets at least give them that it's hard to block when the defense has almost double the bodies in the box. I see this as a scheme problem. We can't effectively stretch the field with a mediocre quarterback and less than adequate receivers. As a result, teams don't have to respect us down the field. They know we can still run, but they stack up to stop it, and we can't punish them for it. The dominoes tumble because of our lack of balance on offense, not entirely because of LJ or poor offensive line play.
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10-17-2006, 02:37 PM	#37
picasso That's a GOOD boy!! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Seattle Casino cash: $10004900	I agree with you 100% mac58!! And Brock, LJ must be cloggin your poop hole with as many stand up posts you've made for his tip toeing ass at the line of scrimmage on every play. Get with it man LJ is not the same so far this year. I do expect him to get better when the weather gets colder though. The thing about LJ is that DV knew he didn't have the balls to break the line in his tenure. That is why it was such a delight to see LJ beat the Raiders in the final play of the game last year on the one yard line. Because he jumped over like he was Priest!!!
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