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Old 12-16-2011, 02:51 PM  
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Tyson Jackson is having a better season than BJ Raji
Raji is ranked 6th worst at his position (or 78th) and 3rd worst in run defense. He has 9 stops all year, good for 66th at his position.



Jackson is ranked 10th at his position and 6th in run defense. He has 32 stops, good for 2nd at his position.



Does this mean the drafturbators are defeated forever?
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:07 PM   #16
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I've had this debate with a friend. He swears Jackson was worth the pick, and is now paying dvidends. I tell him he's crazy, that we shouldn't have to wait three seasons before a third overall pick lives up to the billing, which he isn't even really doing now. He's a solid guy, just not a star. He said defensive linemen aren't supposed to be stars, but merely do their job and freee up space for the linebackers and DB's to make plays. I say then why draft a guy that high to do a throw away job, and he says you need a guy that's good at his position to do that job.

And on. And on. And on.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:08 PM   #17
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:14 PM   #18
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Yeah, it's too bad he was the #3 overall pick.

If he was the #3 overall pick in the 2ND ROUND, he would be a pretty good pick.
Or if he was #15 pick on down.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:15 PM   #19
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:21 PM   #20
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How many TDs does Tyson Jackson have?
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:21 PM   #21
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:22 PM   #22
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PFF is awful.
Why? Because you labeled Jackson a bust already and it turns out he is turning out to be a decent player?
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Why? Because you labeled Jackson a bust already and it turns out he is turning out to be a decent player?
Jackson was a bust the moment he was taken at #3 overall. Unless he turns into Super Richard Seymour and starts raping faces on every down every game, he's not worth the pick and never will be.

We weren't awarded that pick by the NFL just to pick up a "solid" player. They give those picks to the BAD teams who are in need of franchise players. Jackson likely will never aspire to that level.
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Does this mean the drafturbators are defeated forever?
Raji was just the runner up pick, Sanchez was the main one.
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Jackson was a bust the moment he was taken at #3 overall. Unless he turns into Super Richard Seymour and starts raping faces on every down every game, he's not worth the pick and never will be.

We weren't awarded that pick by the NFL just to pick up a "solid" player. They give those picks to the BAD teams who are in need of franchise players. Jackson likely will never aspire to that level.
That's fine.


Also who was drafted 4th in that draft? How many game changers were taken in the top 10 that year?
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My guess is, these two could trade teams and the Chiefs would be 5-8 and the Packers 13-0
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That's fine.


Also who was drafted 4th in that draft? How many game changers were taken in the top 10 that year?
There's a difference between drafting players worthy of that selection come draft time who eventually wind up to be busts and actively SEEKING OUT bust players just because it's likely their bust level isn't as busty as the other busts.
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Why? Because you labeled Jackson a bust already and it turns out he is turning out to be a decent player?
Tyson Jackson always will be a bust. PFF sucks because people like Clayton think it has some value. BJ Raji is clearly a better player than Tyson Jackson but people like Clayton will use this one year and try to claim they are equals. It's kind of like the .gif thing that showed Wigemann beating Franklin a few plays to everyone on here it showed how great Wigemann is!
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In retrospect the pick should have been Orako or Clay Matthews. Its easy to make picks in hindsight though, the top of that draft is just awful looking back.
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