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Todd Haley is the "Mystery of Pittsburgh"

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Summer is the perfect time for a good read, yet nobody seems to be getting one on new Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley.

A Bill Parcells protégé known for adapting his play-calling to his personnel and being an innovative play caller, he is also a volatile sideline presence who inspires loyalty from some players but irritates others.

He is certainly not Bruce Arians, who was not-so-gently shoved out the door in January despite quarterback Ben Roethlisberger’s unwavering support. But, according to those who know Haley best, he also isn’t a control freak who implements change just to show he’s the boss.

While the Steelers generally shy away from coaches with colorful pasts, Haley has that and more, as evidenced by his well-publicized clashes with players and an abrupt departure as the Kansas City Chiefs’ coach last year in which he reportedly suspected team offices and his cell phone were bugged.

Now, Haley’s assimilation into the Steelers’ way of life is the latest Mystery of Pittsburgh, a shadowy yet intriguing riddle that will begin to be solved when the Steelers — coming off successive 12-4 seasons — open camp Wednesday in Latrobe. It figures to be a can’t-miss page turner.

“I’ve heard a lot of Todd stories — some good, some bad,” said former Steelers star guard Alan Faneca, who played in Arizona after Haley was the offensive coordinator there. “He’s definitely a hard worker and demands a lot. He can be very excitable during practice. But sometimes change is good, to get people out of their comfort zone.”

That’s already happened with Roethlisberger, who thrived in a Ben-friendly Arians offense that permitted him to improvise at will. Upon first glance at Haley’s playbook, Roethlisberger jokingly called it a Rosetta Stone course in a brand new language.

“That (change) has a way of keeping guys on their toes and keeping their focus, understanding what their goal is, and that’s to win Super Bowls,” Haley said during minicamp last month. “Win one this year — that’s our goal.”

Haley, 45, is the first outsider in 13 years to run the offense. But he’s no stranger to Pittsburgh or the Steelers; as a youngster in Upper St. Clair, he broke down game film with father Dick Haley, the former Steelers personnel chief who played a major role in some of the best drafts in NFL history in the 1970s.

FOOTBALL NOT FIRST LOVE

Todd Haley’s story isn’t the sit-on-dad’s-knee-and-become-a-football genius tale of Patriots coach Bill Belichick. In his teens, Haley shifted his emphasis to golf, playing in high school and at Florida and Miami in college.

The PGA, not the NFL, appeared to be his calling.

“But there never was a time he wasn’t into football,” said Dick Haley, who at 75 remains plugged into the NFL. “Because of some back problems, he got diverted into golf, but he always wanted to know about the players, about football. How many kids wouldn’t want to after rooming next to Joe Greene at training camp?”

The elder Haley left the Steelers to become the Jets’ personnel director in 1991 and, four years later, Todd was hired in the scouting department. Within two years, he was on Parcells’ coaching staff.

“Todd is bright, demanding, persistent, and he came along pretty well,” Parcells said.

Parcells didn’t care Haley hadn’t played football.

“I know guys who didn’t play and did very well in coaching, and others who played that don’t have a clue what to do,” Parcells, a two-time Super Bowl-winning coach, said.

Haley was promoted to wide receivers coach in 1999 before switching to the Bears in 2001, only to rejoin Parcells in Dallas in 2004.

Haley’s profile rose with his next job as the Arizona Cardinals’ offensive coordinator from 2007-08. With quarterback Kurt Warner headlining an imaginative offense highlighted by former Pitt receiver Larry Fitzgerald’s big plays, the Cardinals were second in passing and third in scoring in 2008. They went 9-7 during the season, but scored at least 30 points during three consecutive playoff wins and rallied from a 13-point deficit to nearly upset the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

That deep throw to Fitz-gerald that nearly sent the Steelers home a loser from Tampa? Haley’s play call.

Haley was subsequently hired as the Chiefs coach by general manager Scott Pioli, the former Patriots executive who worked for the Jets when Haley did. But while Haley went from 4-12 in his first season in 2009 to 10-6 in 2010, finishing third in the coach of the year voting, he was fired with his injury-ruined team reeling with a 5-8 record on Dec. 12.

STORMY DAYS IN K.C.

Haley is derecho-like — always going straight ahead, in full-go mode, and in Kansas City, storm clouds often loomed on the horizon.

Chan Gailey, retained from Herm Edwards’ staff to be the offensive coordinator, didn’t make it through training camp. Larry Johnson, the two-time former 1,700-yard rusher, questioned Haley’s coaching credentials in a Twitter message and was cut in 2009. And tight end Tony Moeaki was lost to a season-ending knee injury in the final 2011 exhibition game, when many NFL regulars rest.

“The quarterback (Matt Cassel) was real average. … It didn’t surprise me what happened in Kansas City. I didn’t have any real confidence in the whole thing,” Dick Haley said.

After Todd Haley departed, the Kansas City Star published a devastating article in which a number of former team employees revealed what they called an intimidating, secretive and stifling work environment. According to the Star, Haley himself suspected bugging at the practice complex.

“I don’t know what happened in Kansas City. I don’t think it’s relevant in Pittsburgh,” Parcells said. “But he probably learned a lot there.”

TUTORING BIG BEN

Given Haley’s sideline spats with Warner, Anquan Boldin, Terrell Owens and Cassel, his relationship with Roethlisberger should prove intriguing. Haley once said, “If you’re sensitive, (the NFL) is not the best place to be.”

“You accept people for what they are and get past the sensitivity level, if there is any,” Parcells said. “Both guys are smart enough to say, ‘Hey, we’ve got to make it work.’ ”

Torry Holt, a NFL Network analyst and former Rams star receiver, can’t wait to see how this plays out.

“Coach Haley has a strong personality. Ben has a strong personality. I’m sure Todd wants him to hone in on this or hone in on that, and Ben will try,” Holt said. “But out there on the football field, your instincts kick in and your competitive nature kicks in, and you kind of resort back to what you’ve always done.”

Haley’s take on Roethlisberger? “He’s a guy that’s been a really good player, and we’re going to try to keep that going and get even better,” he said.

Haley believes an offense must be physical, smart and disciplined, and his system resembles that of his former boss, Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt, a Steelers assistant from 2001-06.

“Todd Haley represents the best of both worlds,” NFL Network analyst Jamie Dukes said. “With Kurt Warner, he threw it 45 times a game and didn’t blink. In Kansas City, he ran it 45 times a game. He’s got those three young wide receivers there in Pittsburgh, and Ben knows how to put the ball in the air. Todd will make the adjustments, and rather quickly.”

While Haley is an assistant again after being a head coach, his father insists he has never been happier now that he’s back home in Pittsburgh with his wife Chrissy and five children.

“He’s loving every second of this,” the elder Haley said. “He couldn’t be more excited.”

Dad Haley also realizes there is intense pressure to succeed as a high-profile coach in your hometown, even if former head coach Bill Cowher made it work.

“I don’t question he’ll do well. (But) there’s a lot of pressure to live up to what’s gone on there for a long time,” Dick Haley said. “And he’d better be good because there’s a lot of pressure on him right now.”
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:07 PM   #556
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Incidentally, it's a little hard to call your offense dink and dunk when your QB is projected to throw 4,700 yards. Big Ben is on pace to have his most productive season in the NFL by a mile.
Right, because yards after the catch don't count.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:07 PM   #557
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:09 PM   #558
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what is it you are missing when you compare Matt Cassel to Kurt Warner. You can call all the AZ plays you want idiot, Cassel won't deliver. Duh
You're a ****ing idiot.

If Haley shared Whisenhunt's philosophy, why is Rothlisberger bitching to the media about Haley?

I know you're missing a chromosome but that doesn't give you a pass.
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Incidentally, it's a little hard to call your offense dink and dunk when your QB is projected to throw 4,700 yards. Big Ben is on pace to have his most productive season in the NFL by a mile.
And they're 3-3 and lost to the Raiders and Titans.

Hardly impressive.
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You're a ****ing idiot.

If Haley shared Whisenhunt's philosophy, why is Rothlisberger bitching to the media about Haley?

I know you're missing a chromosome but that doesn't give you a pass.
I don't know it you noticed but in 2009 without HALEY. The Cards O took a step back.
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The Haley apologists never cease to amaze me.

If the guy was black, he'd be the most hated coach in Chiefs history.
What are you trying to say, Dane?

Care to clarify who that was directed at?
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And they're 3-3 and lost to the Raiders and Titans.

Hardly impressive.
I'm sure that has nothing to do with having a horrible defense and a banged up offensive line and having your starting RB out. Not to mention teaching your QB to run an entirely new offense.

Haley's offense has been mediocre so far in Pittsburgh. But pointing out the win/loss record and saying it's because of offensive scheme... it doesn't address the huge problems they've had this year that don't relate to Haley.
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I don't know it you noticed but in 2009 without HALEY. The Cards O took a step back.
What? They did?

They went 10-6 and won the division. The previous year they were 9-7 and barely made the playoffs.

Furthermore, they beat the Packers in OT.

They hardly took a step back, as most teams don't repeat in the Super Bowl.
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I'm sure that has nothing to do with having a horrible defense and a banged up offensive line and having your starting RB out. Not to mention teaching your QB to run an entirely new offense.

Haley's offense has been mediocre so far in Pittsburgh. But pointing out the win/loss record and saying it's because of offensive scheme... it doesn't address the huge problems they've had this year that don't relate to Haley.
That's nice of you to point out but clearly, Ben Rothlisberger, you know, the QB, disagrees.

This really isn't up for debate when the QB is publicly calling out the OC.
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What? They did?

They went 10-6 and won the division. The previous year they were 9-7 and barely made the playoffs.

Furthermore, they beat the Packers in OT.

They hardly took a step back, as most teams don't repeat in the Super Bowl.
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Care to clarify who that was directed at?
That was directed at no one, just an observation.

People around here HATED Herm with a passion. Some people stated they were "proud" when he was fired and Haley hired. Yet, Haley was a worse game day coach than Herm.

The bottom line is that Haley sucked ass as a head coach and he's being called out by his two-time Super Bowl winning QB, yet people here defend him.

It's ****ing hilarious.
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That's nice of you to point out but clearly, Ben Rothlisberger, you know, the QB, disagrees.

This really isn't up for debate when the QB is publicly calling out the OC.
So, are the Rooney's "out to get ben" hiring Haley to make him go away ???
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2008 W Haley 4th in the NFL
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That must be the loss of Haley.

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