KCCrow's 2014 "What I Want" Final Mock - Page 2

kccrow · 04-30-2014, 09:21 PM

Well, I've finally decided how I want the Chiefs draft to go down. No more Chiefs "what I want" drafts from me this year, enjoy.

Round 1 - Selection 23

Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt

I like Jimmie Ward and believe he is a clone of Earl Thomas, and also Brandin Cooks who I think is an explosive Percy Harvin type. However, I'm going back the one guy I have had my eye on throughout this entire process as the player Kansas City absolutely should draft, Jordan Matthews. A 6'3" 212 lb. receiver with 4.4 speed, a 6.95 3-cone, a 35" vertical, unbelievable hands, and precise route running skills, I consider Matthews to not only be a prototypical NFL receiver, but the best receiver prospect in the 2014 draft. With that skill set, and a cousin named Jerry Rice to help you along, it's not unfathomable that Matthews could live up to the lofty billing I'm assigning him here. The Chiefs have to get better at receiver, and Matthews has the skill set to take over as a number one the
day KC decides to part ways with Bowe.

Previous Pick: Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State

Round 3 - Selection 87

Jack Mewhort - OL - Ohio State

A versatile and highly effective All-American at left tackle, he possesses the thick long frame offensive line coaches love. Mewhort projects as a plug-and-play right guard that can kick out to tackle as a reserve or even start at right tackle. Mewhort is the prototypical Dorsey type of lineman in that he has tackle experience and the versatility to play anywhere. Aside from his size, Mewhort has one of the longest wingspans in the draft, which should only help him latch onto big NFL lineman with ease.

Previous Pick: Jackson Jeffcoat - DE - Texas

Round 4 - Selection 124

Ed Reynolds - FS - Stanford

The talking heads can form their opinions on this guy, but I'm going to form mine too: this is the best safety nobody is talking about. Reynolds proved to be a playmaker in 2012 with 6 interceptions, so teams didn't pass his way in 2013 but Reynolds proved his worth against the run by racking up nealry 90 tackles. Reynolds is a big (6'1" 207), playmaking safety that can come up and support the run and lay the wood. He's alot like Harrison Smith. Berry and Reynolds would give KC a big, physical safety group with coverage skills.

Previous Pick: Trai Turner - OG - LSU

Round 5 - Selection 163

Michael Campanaro - WR - Wake Forest

I don't know that the Chiefs should come out of this draft with less than two receivers. Campanaro is one hell of a good slot receiver, likely the best in this class. He reminds me of Wes Welker, and not because he is white. While he may be a scant 5'9" and 192 lbs, he has a 39" vertical to help make up for it, 4.45 speed, and unreal quickness with a 6.77 3-cone that absolutely stands out on tape. The Chiefs have the opportunity in this draft of turning a decent offense into a quite potent one, capable of keeping pace with a team like Denver. With Bowe, Matthews, and Campanaro, the Chiefs would have a corps very similar to what Denver had last season in Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Wes Welker.

Previous Pick: Phillip Gaines - CB - Rice

Round 6 - Selection 193

Travis Carrie - CB - Ohio

Call me enamored with this kid, I just love the way he plays and the leadership he exhibits on the field with his teammates. This guy is a true player, good in press, man, and zone as well as having great tackling ability. His tackling is so good, some scouts see him as a potential free safety. Carrie has near prototypical size at 6'0" 206 lbs. After running a 4.43 40-yd dash, 6.97 3-cone, posting a 41" vertical, and a 10'05" broad jump, there is no reason for anyone to believe there are any lingering effects from his 2012 knee injury. Adding to his intrigue, Carrie happens to be a high quality special teams player, especially as a punt returner.

Previous Pick: Jay Bromley - DT - Syracuse

Round 6 - Selection 200

Morgan Breslin - DE/OLB - USC

Breslin is an absolute beast and likely a 2nd day pick at worst if he didn't injure his hip this season and have surgery. The guy had 17.5 sacks in 18 games with the Trojans. He recorded at least a half sack in 12 of those 18 games, so he had fairly consistent production. He reportedly played around 255 at USC but showed up to his pro day at 6'1" and 240 pounds, and it looks like he can add to his frame. Kansas City desperately needs some better depth at outside rush linebacker behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston, and Breslin can offer just that. Breslin could end up being an outstanding steal in this draft after running in the 4.6's and posting a 35-1/2" vertical at his pro day with 26 bench reps to boot.

Previous Pick: Rajion Neal - RB - Tennessee

How they fit:

QB Alex Smith, Chase Daniel
RB Jamaal Charles, Knile Davis, Joe McKnight
FB Anthony Sherman
TE Anthony Fasano, Travis Kelce, Sean McGrath
WR Dwayne Bowe, Donnie Avery, A.J. Jenkins
WR Jordan Matthews, Michael Campanaro
LT Eric Fisher
LG Jeff Allen, Rishaw Johnson
OC Rodney Hudson, Eric Kush
RG Jack Mewhort, Jeff Linkenbach
RT Donald Stephenson

DE Vance Walker, Mike Catapano
DE Mike DeVito, Allen Bailey
NT Dontari Poe, Jaye Howard
OLB Tamba Hali, Morgan Breslin
ILB Derrick Johnson, James-Michael Johnson
ILB Joe Mays, Nico Johnson
OLB Justin Houston, Frank Zombo
CB Sean Smith, Travis Carrie
CB Brandon Flowers, Marcus Cooper, Chris Owens
FS Ed Reynolds, Sanders Commings
SS Eric Berry, Husain Abdullah

K Ryan Succop
P Dustin Colquitt
LS Thomas Gafford

Halfcan · 05-01-2014, 09:34 AM

If the Chiefs can plug in 3 solid starter out of this draft-that would be a win!

OldSchool · 05-01-2014, 09:49 AM

Fact of the matter is, the odds stacked against the possibility of Brandin Cooks becoming a legitimate #1 WR threat in the sense that guys like Julio Jones, Megatron, AJ Green, Fitzgerald, etc are, are taller than Brandin Cooks is.

I'm going to use the same argument that everyone else uses against drafting interior linemen in the 1st round.

Great slot WRs can be found in the mid to late rounds in the draft. That's especially true in this draft which is the deepest its been in a while, especially at the WR position.

Wes Welker - UDFA
Victor Cruz - UDFA
Randall Cobb - Round 2 Pick 64
Danny Amendola - UDFA
Lance Moore - UDFA
Kendall Wright - 1st round pick 20
Cecil Shorts III - 4th round pick 114
Doug Baldwin - UDFA
T.Y. Hilton - 3rd round, pick 92
etc.

I think you get the picture now.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2014, 10:24 AM

No one has said that Cooks has legitimate #1 WR potential.

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2014, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Fact of the matter is, the odds stacked against the possibility of Brandin Cooks becoming a legitimate #1 WR threat in the sense that guys like Julio Jones, Megatron, AJ Green, Fitzgerald, etc are, are taller than Brandin Cooks is.

I'm going to use the same argument that everyone else uses against drafting interior linemen in the 1st round.

Great slot WRs can be found in the mid to late rounds in the draft. That's especially true in this draft which is the deepest its been in a while, especially at the WR position.

Wes Welker - UDFA
Victor Cruz - UDFA
Randall Cobb - Round 2 Pick 64
Danny Amendola - UDFA
Lance Moore - UDFA
Kendall Wright - 1st round pick 20
Cecil Shorts III - 4th round pick 114
Doug Baldwin - UDFA
T.Y. Hilton - 3rd round, pick 92
etc.

I think you get the picture now.

How many of those guys put up the college numbers that Brandin Cooks did WHILE playing in a pro style system all three years that he was a starter?

With the exception of Cobb, who made his mark as a kick returner more than anything, very few of those guys had successful college careers.

Cooks has had excellent production while playing for 3 different QBs each year. He's put up 1000+ receiving yards in seasons where he was scrounging for catches with guys like Markus Wheaton, and he also put up ungodly jaw-dropping numbers while he was THE #1 guy getting double-teamed constantly (2013).

The argument I've always been making is that Cooks isn't just some slot guy that can be grabbed at any point. He's much more than that, and I'm willing to bet that he leads rookie WRs in 2014 in production.

That's completely different from rationalizing a pick like Xavier Su'a Filo over a midround guard like Dakota Dozier.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2014, 10:51 AM

Scott Mannion and Cody Vaz. Those are the QBs that Cooks has had.

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2014, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Scott Mannion and Cody Vaz. Those are the QBs that Cooks has had.

I thought Mannion was a 1-year starter? I could be wrong.

In any case, yeah. Sean Mannion and Cody Vaz. Not exactly what I call inflated stats due to the system or the other players.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2014, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR

I thought Mannion was a 1-year starter? I could be wrong.

In any case, yeah. Sean Mannion and Cody Vaz. Not exactly what I call inflated stats due to the system or the other players.

Mannion started the entire season last year. The year before that....he started the season but got hurt and then it was QB roulette between Vaz and Mannion for the rest of the season.

RunKC · 05-01-2014, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I may be a Brandin Cooks supporter....but this statement is ****ing reeruned.

Same numbers at the combine.....so he must be as good as better. What awards did Campanaro win last year?

Look at him play, man. He's not the elite straight line speed guy, but he does have that quickness and short area speed.

I would love Cooks, but at this point I'll be shocked if TE Eagles don't draft him.

Jackson is gone, Maclin is coming off a torn ACL and Cooper is decent but jot that great.

RunKC · 05-01-2014, 11:16 AM

Say Cooks and ODB are gone. Who are you going to draft now at 23? Latimer is my choice.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2014, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Say Cooks and ODB are gone. Who are you going to draft now at 23? Latimer is my choice.

Are we talking WRs only at #23?

**RealSNR** · 05-01-2014, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC

Say Cooks and ODB are gone. Who are you going to draft now at 23? Latimer is my choice.

I'd love Latimer.

Hell, I'll probably grump a little bit about Matthews simply because there are players I like better, but he's clearly got a lot of great things going for him and how we would use him in this offense. In the end, I think I would be satisfied if we took him at 23.

Just no ****ing interior offensive linemen.

kccrow · 05-01-2014, 02:34 PM

I don't give two shits about how good Cooks is or isn't in this particular thread to be honest. There is one fact, Campanaro was VERY productive at Wake Forest, and with that added to the measurements to back it up, he could be a steal of a pick as a slot receiver later in the draft.

The question you people should be asking, if you're so hell bent on Cooks, is whether or not Cooks is better than Matthews, as they appear to translate to the pros, and my answer is no.

patteeu · 05-01-2014, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't give two shits about how good Cooks is or isn't in this particular thread to be honest. There is one fact, Campanaro was VERY productive at Wake Forest, and with that added to the measurements to back it up, he could be a steal of a pick as a slot receiver later in the draft.

The question you people should be asking, if you're so hell bent on Cooks, is whether or not Cooks is better than Matthews, as they appear to translate to the pros, and my answer is no.

I don't know who will end up being better, but I'd rather take my chances with Matthews.

**The Franchise** · 05-01-2014, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't give two shits about how good Cooks is or isn't in this particular thread to be honest. There is one fact, Campanaro was VERY productive at Wake Forest, and with that added to the measurements to back it up, he could be a steal of a pick as a slot receiver later in the draft.

The question you people should be asking, if you're so hell bent on Cooks, is whether or not Cooks is better than Matthews, as they appear to translate to the pros, and my answer is no.

And your reasoning is what? His height?

**HemiEd** · 05-01-2014, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

If the Chiefs can plug in 3 solid starter out of this draft-that would be a win!

Better than last year when they were picking 1st overall.

04-30-2014, 09:21 PM
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3327078	KCCrow's 2014 "What I Want" Final Mock Well, I've finally decided how I want the Chiefs draft to go down. No more Chiefs "what I want" drafts from me this year, enjoy. Round 1 - Selection 23 Jordan Matthews - WR - Vanderbilt I like Jimmie Ward and believe he is a clone of Earl Thomas, and also Brandin Cooks who I think is an explosive Percy Harvin type. However, I'm going back the one guy I have had my eye on throughout this entire process as the player Kansas City absolutely should draft, Jordan Matthews. A 6'3" 212 lb. receiver with 4.4 speed, a 6.95 3-cone, a 35" vertical, unbelievable hands, and precise route running skills, I consider Matthews to not only be a prototypical NFL receiver, but the best receiver prospect in the 2014 draft. With that skill set, and a cousin named Jerry Rice to help you along, it's not unfathomable that Matthews could live up to the lofty billing I'm assigning him here. The Chiefs have to get better at receiver, and Matthews has the skill set to take over as a number one the day KC decides to part ways with Bowe. Previous Pick: Brandin Cooks - WR - Oregon State Round 3 - Selection 87 Jack Mewhort - OL - Ohio State A versatile and highly effective All-American at left tackle, he possesses the thick long frame offensive line coaches love. Mewhort projects as a plug-and-play right guard that can kick out to tackle as a reserve or even start at right tackle. Mewhort is the prototypical Dorsey type of lineman in that he has tackle experience and the versatility to play anywhere. Aside from his size, Mewhort has one of the longest wingspans in the draft, which should only help him latch onto big NFL lineman with ease. Previous Pick: Jackson Jeffcoat - DE - Texas Round 4 - Selection 124 Ed Reynolds - FS - Stanford The talking heads can form their opinions on this guy, but I'm going to form mine too: this is the best safety nobody is talking about. Reynolds proved to be a playmaker in 2012 with 6 interceptions, so teams didn't pass his way in 2013 but Reynolds proved his worth against the run by racking up nealry 90 tackles. Reynolds is a big (6'1" 207), playmaking safety that can come up and support the run and lay the wood. He's alot like Harrison Smith. Berry and Reynolds would give KC a big, physical safety group with coverage skills. Previous Pick: Trai Turner - OG - LSU Round 5 - Selection 163 Michael Campanaro - WR - Wake Forest I don't know that the Chiefs should come out of this draft with less than two receivers. Campanaro is one hell of a good slot receiver, likely the best in this class. He reminds me of Wes Welker, and not because he is white. While he may be a scant 5'9" and 192 lbs, he has a 39" vertical to help make up for it, 4.45 speed, and unreal quickness with a 6.77 3-cone that absolutely stands out on tape. The Chiefs have the opportunity in this draft of turning a decent offense into a quite potent one, capable of keeping pace with a team like Denver. With Bowe, Matthews, and Campanaro, the Chiefs would have a corps very similar to what Denver had last season in Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and Wes Welker. Previous Pick: Phillip Gaines - CB - Rice Round 6 - Selection 193 Travis Carrie - CB - Ohio Call me enamored with this kid, I just love the way he plays and the leadership he exhibits on the field with his teammates. This guy is a true player, good in press, man, and zone as well as having great tackling ability. His tackling is so good, some scouts see him as a potential free safety. Carrie has near prototypical size at 6'0" 206 lbs. After running a 4.43 40-yd dash, 6.97 3-cone, posting a 41" vertical, and a 10'05" broad jump, there is no reason for anyone to believe there are any lingering effects from his 2012 knee injury. Adding to his intrigue, Carrie happens to be a high quality special teams player, especially as a punt returner. Previous Pick: Jay Bromley - DT - Syracuse Round 6 - Selection 200 Morgan Breslin - DE/OLB - USC Breslin is an absolute beast and likely a 2nd day pick at worst if he didn't injure his hip this season and have surgery. The guy had 17.5 sacks in 18 games with the Trojans. He recorded at least a half sack in 12 of those 18 games, so he had fairly consistent production. He reportedly played around 255 at USC but showed up to his pro day at 6'1" and 240 pounds, and it looks like he can add to his frame. Kansas City desperately needs some better depth at outside rush linebacker behind Tamba Hali and Justin Houston, and Breslin can offer just that. Breslin could end up being an outstanding steal in this draft after running in the 4.6's and posting a 35-1/2" vertical at his pro day with 26 bench reps to boot. Previous Pick: Rajion Neal - RB - Tennessee How they fit: QB Alex Smith, Chase Daniel RB Jamaal Charles, Knile Davis, Joe McKnight FB Anthony Sherman TE Anthony Fasano, Travis Kelce, Sean McGrath WR Dwayne Bowe, Donnie Avery, A.J. Jenkins WR Jordan Matthews, Michael Campanaro LT Eric Fisher LG Jeff Allen, Rishaw Johnson OC Rodney Hudson, Eric Kush RG Jack Mewhort, Jeff Linkenbach RT Donald Stephenson DE Vance Walker, Mike Catapano DE Mike DeVito, Allen Bailey NT Dontari Poe, Jaye Howard OLB Tamba Hali, Morgan Breslin ILB Derrick Johnson, James-Michael Johnson ILB Joe Mays, Nico Johnson OLB Justin Houston, Frank Zombo CB Sean Smith, Travis Carrie CB Brandon Flowers, Marcus Cooper, Chris Owens FS Ed Reynolds, Sanders Commings SS Eric Berry, Husain Abdullah K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt LS Thomas Gafford
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OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Fact of the matter is, the odds stacked against the possibility of Brandin Cooks becoming a legitimate #1 WR threat in the sense that guys like Julio Jones, Megatron, AJ Green, Fitzgerald, etc are, are taller than Brandin Cooks is. I'm going to use the same argument that everyone else uses against drafting interior linemen in the 1st round. Great slot WRs can be found in the mid to late rounds in the draft. That's especially true in this draft which is the deepest its been in a while, especially at the WR position. Wes Welker - UDFA Victor Cruz - UDFA Randall Cobb - Round 2 Pick 64 Danny Amendola - UDFA Lance Moore - UDFA Kendall Wright - 1st round pick 20 Cecil Shorts III - 4th round pick 114 Doug Baldwin - UDFA T.Y. Hilton - 3rd round, pick 92 etc. I think you get the picture now.
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kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3327078	I don't give two shits about how good Cooks is or isn't in this particular thread to be honest. There is one fact, Campanaro was VERY productive at Wake Forest, and with that added to the measurements to back it up, he could be a steal of a pick as a slot receiver later in the draft. The question you people should be asking, if you're so hell bent on Cooks, is whether or not Cooks is better than Matthews, as they appear to translate to the pros, and my answer is no.
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