Home Mail Chat Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Lonewolf Ed Lounge > Washington DC and The Holy Land

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2017, 12:19 PM  
Just Passin' By Just Passin' By is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Just Passin' By's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Casino cash: $30624
Global warming: Daily Mail: How world leaders were duped into investing billions...

Quote:
Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data

The Mail on Sunday today reveals astonishing evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change.

A high-level whistleblower has told this newspaper that America’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) breached its own rules on scientific integrity when it published the sensational but flawed report, aimed at making the maximum possible impact on world leaders including Barack Obama and David Cameron at the UN climate conference in Paris in 2015....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ampaign=buffer


Much more at the link
Posts: 21,314
Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.Just Passin' By is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:39 AM   #31
Fish Fish is offline
Missing Dick Curl
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $29019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
Problem being, scientists are not content to describing the state of knowledge. They're people too, and they have ideas on political solutions. And at present, they are vocal in espousing those solutions.

If their solutions are so self-evident from the data, they will survive in the marketplace and don't need governmental pressure to realize.
Well yeah, they're people too. I've not seen much in the way of scientists themselves pushing political solutions though. Any examples? I'm not fond of that idea at all. I think the scientists should do their work and let politicians make policy. The problem at the moment is that a great number of policy makers are in denial of the legitimate science being done.

I strongly disagree that the free market will simply embrace proven science though. Does the free market embrace environmental regulations to keep our cities free of smog and pollutants? We should all agree that some environmental regulations are necessary. But the free market doesn't really care about that. I'm very leery about the government pushing anything at the moment, and I certainly don't expect that with this administration. But I also don't expect the free market to embrace it just because the science is correct and it's the right thing to do. The free market will only willingly embrace it if they can profit from it. Like environmental regs, that might never happen.
__________________
Posts: 33,125
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:41 AM   #32
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
A certain set of skills
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: texas
Casino cash: $26783
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
Sorry, I honestly have no clue who you're talking about with that quote.

How can you be a member this long and not know who Donger is, hard to believe.
Posts: 25,001
Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:43 AM   #33
Fish Fish is offline
Missing Dick Curl
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $29019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fairplay View Post
How can you be a member this long and not know who Donger is, hard to believe.
I know who Donger is, goofball. The quote wasn't from Donger. BL confused me with the quotations, and I interpreted it as being from a scientist or politician.
__________________
Posts: 33,125
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:45 AM   #34
Fairplay Fairplay is offline
A certain set of skills
 
Fairplay's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: texas
Casino cash: $26783
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryDayz View Post
I told y'all it was fake!
Its all about an organization getting tons of money for Global taxes from the rest of the world, namely the U.S.

While nations like polluted China sign on to the treaty they won't put smog reducing devices on their plants like America does. We have the most EPA rules in the world but other countries will just do what they want to do anyway.

Al Gore laughs.

Posts: 25,001
Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fairplay is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:50 AM   #35
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Behold!! Infinity!!
 
Baby Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $58698
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
Well yeah, they're people too. I've not seen much in the way of scientists themselves pushing political solutions though. Any examples? I'm not fond of that idea at all. I think the scientists should do their work and let politicians make policy. The problem at the moment is that a great number of policy makers are in denial of the legitimate science being done.

I strongly disagree that the free market will simply embrace proven science though. Does the free market embrace environmental regulations to keep our cities free of smog and pollutants? We should all agree that some environmental regulations are necessary. But the free market doesn't really care about that. I'm very leery about the government pushing anything at the moment, and I certainly don't expect that with this administration. But I also don't expect the free market to embrace it just because the science is correct and it's the right thing to do.
And I strongly disagree with the inviolability of the notion that industry rejects pollution mitigation.

Energy production is a treadmill [nearly literally]. It's a constant demand that greatly increases our standard of living.

It's a bit of chicken and egg to suggest that pollution mitigation solutions were just sitting there, and industry stubbornly refused to adopt them in the interest of profit. Solutions were DISCOVERED and became economical, feasible and smart as they were discovered and implemented. If the solutions were not discovered or never became economical [say, if scrubbers still quadrupled or more the price of energy] we would have a crisis.

At present, scrubbers and like technology to remove actual pollutants are a minor to infinitesimal portion of the cost of delivering energy. But we stand at a crossroads where mitigation of CO2 remains burdensomely costly, while the 'polluting' qualities of CO2 remains an open question.

So continue to pursue strategies to sequester CO2 or generate energy that doesn't produce CO2 until such point as it's an economical portion of doing business. But stop with the fiction that CO2 production is a pending catastrophe that will end the earth, thus necessitating mitigation regardless of cost.
Posts: 67,228
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 10:52 AM   #36
Baby Lee Baby Lee is offline
Behold!! Infinity!!
 
Baby Lee's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Casino cash: $58698
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish View Post
I know who Donger is, goofball. The quote wasn't from Donger. BL confused me with the quotations, and I interpreted it as being from a scientist or politician.
I refer you to the single quotation/apostrophe rule [I made up]. If I use single quotes, it's a paraphrase of a line of reasoning, not a verbatim quote of an identifiable individual
Posts: 67,228
Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.Baby Lee is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 11:01 AM   #37
BigRichard BigRichard is offline
Buddy Christ is a Chiefs fan
 
BigRichard's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2008
Casino cash: $19646
Scientist should be obtaining and interpreting the climate data and economists should be decided what if anything should be done. At least that is how I see it.
__________________
"You know, they lay down with their ugly wives in front of their ugly children and just look at their loser lives and then they look at me and say, "I CAN'T PROCESS IT!" Well, no, and you never will. Stop trying. Just sit back and enjoy the show .... You know?"

Carlos Irwin Estevez
Posts: 5,202
BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.BigRichard wants to die in a aids tree fire.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 11:09 AM   #38
Fish Fish is offline
Missing Dick Curl
 
Fish's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $29019
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
And I strongly disagree with the inviolability of the notion that industry rejects pollution mitigation.

Energy production is a treadmill [nearly literally]. It's a constant demand that greatly increases our standard of living.

It's a bit of chicken and egg to suggest that pollution mitigation solutions were just sitting there, and industry stubbornly refused to adopt them in the interest of profit. Solutions were DISCOVERED and became economical, feasible and smart as they were discovered and implemented. If the solutions were not discovered or never became economical [say, if scrubbers still quadrupled or more the price of energy] we would have a crisis.

At present, scrubbers and like technology to remove actual pollutants are a minor to infinitesimal portion of the cost of delivering energy. But we stand at a crossroads where mitigation of CO2 remains burdensomely costly, while the 'polluting' qualities of CO2 remains an open question.

So continue to pursue strategies to sequester CO2 or generate energy that doesn't produce CO2 until such point as it's an economical portion of doing business.
US industry absolutely rejected pollution mitigation. That's the entire reason why the EPA had to be created via executive order. The industry was doing nothing at all to mitigate pollution, and they fought it tooth and nail and continue to do so today. They certainly didn't wait on enforcing environmental regulations until the industry felt they could afford it. They put the safety of Americans above the profit of the industry.

Here's a nice article from the first director of the EPA, talking about how much resistance he faced in implementing environmental regulations:

Quote:
http://www.epaalumni.org/userdata/pd...C8EF2DD115.pdf

Fortunately, we were faced with a lot of very big and in some cases, very arrogant polluters who were not only discharging bad stuff into the water and air, but were willing to confront the government about whether they ought to do anything about it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
But stop with the fiction that CO2 production is a pending catastrophe that will end the earth, thus necessitating mitigation regardless of cost.
Pending catastrophe? Regardless of cost? WTF can you not have a discussion without doing this? I've never said any of that.
__________________

Last edited by Fish; 02-08-2017 at 11:27 AM..
Posts: 33,125
Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.Fish is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 11:25 AM   #39
Loneiguana Loneiguana is online now
MVP
 
Loneiguana's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Jefferson City
Casino cash: $22670
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Lee View Post
Problem being, scientists are not content to describing the state of knowledge. They're people too, and they have ideas on political solutions. And at present, they are vocal in espousing those solutions.

If their solutions are so self-evident from the data, they will survive in the marketplace and don't need governmental pressure to realize.


This is why it didn't take the government to get lead out of household products.

What naivety.

__________________
"Most of us can, as we choose, make of this world either a palace or a prison."
–John Lubbock
Posts: 11,273
Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Loneiguana is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2017, 01:47 PM   #40
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
45, 46, 47....
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FEMA-Free Zone
Casino cash: $87480
Y'all can get back to cooling the planet when The Don is done fixing the other things that'll blow it up before it melts.
Posts: 57,693
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:19 AM   #41
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Seeking the Truth daily
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $34409
More excellent news that the MSM will ignore or twist..


The U.S. Senate passed legislation recently cutting funding for NASA’s global warming research.

The House is expected to pass the bill, and President Trump will likely sign it. Supporters say it “re-balances” NASA’s budget back toward space exploration and away from global warming and earth science research. Republicans plan to end the more than $2 billion NASA spends on its Earth Science Mission Directorate.

“By rebalancing, I’d like for more funds to go into space exploration; we’re not going to zero out earth sciences,” Texas Republican, Rep. Lamar Smith, who chairs the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, told E&E News. “I’d like for us to remember what our priorities are, and there are another dozen agencies that study earth science and climate change, and they can continue to do that.”

NASA’s spending on earth and global warming science increased by 63 percent over the last eight years, making it the largest and fastest growing budget of any NASA science program. The agency now spends more on environmental research than many of its other science functions, including astrophysics and space technology. Those programs only get $781.5 million and $826.7 million, respectively.

“We only have one agency that engages in space exploration, and they need every dollar they can muster for space exploration,” Smith continued.

Trump tapped former Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Bob Walker as a senior adviser to his NASA transition team — a man who thinks NASA should do less “politically correct environmental monitoring” and more space exploration.

“NASA should be focused primarily on deep-space activities rather than Earth-centric work that is better handled by other agencies,” Walker and Peter Navarro, another senior adviser to the Trump campaign, wrote in an October opinion piece. “Human exploration of our entire solar system by the end of this century should be NASA’s focus and goal.”
Keep reading…
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 39,774
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 10:42 AM   #42
scho63 scho63 is offline
Politically Incorrect
 
scho63's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Casino cash: $0
Since 1881 the temperature has been creeping up - add in the fact of massive deforestation in the last 25 years and the planet does not have enough natural CO2 filters.

__________________
"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!" ~Redd Foxx~



2017 Adopt a Chief - K.C Wolf
"I know he ain't getting injured, cut, fired or will fumble!"


Posts: 15,296
scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.scho63 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 11:14 AM   #43
GloryDayz GloryDayz is offline
45, 46, 47....
 
GloryDayz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FEMA-Free Zone
Casino cash: $87480
Quote:
Originally Posted by HonestChieffan View Post
More excellent news that the MSM will ignore or twist..


The U.S. Senate passed legislation recently cutting funding for NASA’s global warming research.

The House is expected to pass the bill, and President Trump will likely sign it. Supporters say it “re-balances” NASA’s budget back toward space exploration and away from global warming and earth science research. Republicans plan to end the more than $2 billion NASA spends on its Earth Science Mission Directorate.

“By rebalancing, I’d like for more funds to go into space exploration; we’re not going to zero out earth sciences,” Texas Republican, Rep. Lamar Smith, who chairs the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, told E&E News. “I’d like for us to remember what our priorities are, and there are another dozen agencies that study earth science and climate change, and they can continue to do that.”

NASA’s spending on earth and global warming science increased by 63 percent over the last eight years, making it the largest and fastest growing budget of any NASA science program. The agency now spends more on environmental research than many of its other science functions, including astrophysics and space technology. Those programs only get $781.5 million and $826.7 million, respectively.

“We only have one agency that engages in space exploration, and they need every dollar they can muster for space exploration,” Smith continued.

Trump tapped former Republican Pennsylvania Rep. Bob Walker as a senior adviser to his NASA transition team — a man who thinks NASA should do less “politically correct environmental monitoring” and more space exploration.

“NASA should be focused primarily on deep-space activities rather than Earth-centric work that is better handled by other agencies,” Walker and Peter Navarro, another senior adviser to the Trump campaign, wrote in an October opinion piece. “Human exploration of our entire solar system by the end of this century should be NASA’s focus and goal.”
Keep reading…
A very level-headed approach. Like...
Posts: 57,693
GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.GloryDayz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 11:35 AM   #44
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $54164
I would rather spend more on nasa and the space travel than alot of the other shit we pay for
Posts: 46,462
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 11:56 AM   #45
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Seeking the Truth daily
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $34409
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
I would rather spend more on nasa and the space travel than alot of the other shit we pay for
I agree.
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 39,774
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
Arlington Texas Process Servers
Arlington Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.