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Old 09-13-2017, 05:23 PM  
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Donald Trump didn’t call Charlottesville an act of domestic terrorism,soCongress will

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/13/dona...will-make-him/

Donald Trump didn’t call Charlottesville an act of domestic terrorism, so Congress will make him

Congress is putting President Donald Trump on the spot regarding his stance on white supremacists.

The bill, which was passed by unanimous consent by the Senate on Monday and the House of Representatives on Tuesday, referred to the murder of Heather Heyer by a white supremacist as a “domestic terrorist attack” and condemns “White nationalists, white supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and other hate groups,” according to The Washington Post. It also pointedly did not equate hate groups on the right with the left-wing protesters that opposed them, sending a not-so-subtle message about the wrongheadedness of Trump blaming “both sides.”

Most importantly, the bill urged Trump to “speak out against hate groups that espouse racism, extremism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and White supremacy,” including using “all resources available to the President and the President’s Cabinet to address the growing prevalence of those hate groups in the United States.”

For symbolic reasons, the bill was introduced by the Republican congressman representing Charlottesville, Rep. Tom Garrett, as well as a Democratic legislator from Virginia, Rep. Gerald Connolly, according to Politico. It was also sponsored by both of Virginia’s senators, Democrats Tim Kaine and Mark Warner.

Because the legislation was structured as a “joint resolution,” Trump would be required to sign off on it. This will prevent the president from dodging commentary altogether in order to retain the support of his “alt-right” followers.

This is the second time in less than two months that Congress has worked together in a bipartisan manner to force Trump’s hand. In August, a bill was passed imposing harsh new sanctions on Russia, one that Trump signed into law because his veto would have been overridden, but he still vocally protested it.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:19 PM   #61
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one side was yelling blood and soil flying swastika's and confederate flags and one side wasn't.


Alt-right has to own what happened during charlottesville .

There is no shifting the blame.
Which is 100% legal, dumb ass
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:41 PM   #62
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if you were trying to say antifa was also to blame for what happened in charlottesville.


That's just 100% untrue statement.
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Old 09-13-2017, 07:55 PM   #63
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Which is 100% legal, dumb ass
As opposed to, you know, robbing and looting and setting cop cars on fire.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:00 PM   #64
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JFC Frazod, did you read the article you linked to?



Whites make up 77% of the population. Blacks make up 13%. (These percentages were in the article you posted.) That means whites outnumber blacks by 6 to 1. The graph that you posted shows that only about 3 times as many whites are killed by blacks. A black person could take your graph and make a pretty reasonable argument that whites kill blacks at twice the rate that blacks kill whites.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:10 PM   #65
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JFC Frazod, did you read the article you linked to?



Whites make up 77% of the population. Blacks make up 13%. (These percentages were in the article you posted.) That means whites outnumber blacks by 6 to 1. The graph that you posted shows that only about 3 times as many whites are killed by blacks. A black person could take your graph and make a pretty reasonable argument that whites kill blacks at twice the rate that blacks kill whites.
That's what you took from that? Figures.
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The Group he was hanging with didn't seem to mind what he did.
I don't know if he was hanging out with the alt-right or not. And it doesn't matter. It was his choice to do what he did. It wasn't anyone's "fault" but his own.
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That's what you took from that? Figures.
I didn't "take" anything from the article you posted. It's just simple math.
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Are you suggesting that antifa does NOT espouse those beliefs?
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JFC Frazod, did you read the article you linked to?



Whites make up 77% of the population. Blacks make up 13%. (These percentages were in the article you posted.) That means whites outnumber blacks by 6 to 1. The graph that you posted shows that only about 3 times as many whites are killed by blacks. A black person could take your graph and make a pretty reasonable argument that whites kill blacks at twice the rate that blacks kill whites.

Omg


Little math lesson for you: if whites are 6x the population they should kill 6x as many blacks. But they only kill 1/2 as many. That makes the ratio 12-1 blacks killing whites.



I really do weep for our public school system.
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Facts says one side started the violence and killed someone.
I actually read some on the left saying that the counter-protesters became violent, or at least aggressive, first. You are saying they did not?

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There was no both sides.
Again, patently and completely untrue.
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Omg


Little math lesson for you: if whites are 6x the population they should kill 6x as many blacks. But they only kill 1/2 as many. That makes the ratio 12-1 blacks killing whites.



I really do weep for our public school system.
Kudos for making an attempt at a counter-argument instead of making a complete non-response like Frazod did.

The problem is that your math fails because there aren't enough blacks as a percentage of the population for your 12-1 ratio to be valid. That's also a bit of a problem with my math as well. To be honest, I was wondering if anyone would catch that. The calculation is actually more complicated than either one of us made it. A statistician could probably give us a real calculation here. I don't think either of us is a statistician.

The bigger issue here is Trump's refusal to call this domestic terrorism, and the virtually unanimous agreement by BOTH parties in Congress that this IS domestic terrorism, along with their apparent plan to take Trump to the woodshed over this. This is actually quite reminiscent of Obama's refusal to utter the words "Islamic terrorism".
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JFC Frazod, did you read the article you linked to?



Whites make up 77% of the population. Blacks make up 13%. (These percentages were in the article you posted.) That means whites outnumber blacks by 6 to 1. The graph that you posted shows that only about 3 times as many whites are killed by blacks. A black person could take your graph and make a pretty reasonable argument that whites kill blacks at twice the rate that blacks kill whites.


are you saying that it should be easier to kill whites because it's a target rich environment?







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JFC Frazod, did you read the article you linked to?



Whites make up 77% of the population. Blacks make up 13%. (These percentages were in the article you posted.) That means whites outnumber blacks by 6 to 1. The graph that you posted shows that only about 3 times as many whites are killed by blacks. A black person could take your graph and make a pretty reasonable argument that whites kill blacks at twice the rate that blacks kill whites.
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