Chiefs Quinn QBotF - Page 36

Mr_Tomahawk · 05-24-2012, 09:03 PM

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Watching the quarterbacks
Among the 3 quarterbacks on the roster, the guy who threw the ball best on Thursday was Brady Quinn. He appears to have solid mechanics in his drop and has smoothed out some rough edges that were visible in his motion going back to Notre Dame. Matt Cassel threw several nice passes, but he was high on his throws during much of the session. Ricky Stanzi was OK.

@Iowa homers.

“I think they’re beginning to gain a command of the system and some of the checks that we have in place,” Crennel said. “They’re all doing well. Probably, Brady and Matt are a little ahead of Stanzi right now, but they’re all working at it. They’re a good group in that room, so we feel good about them.”

aturnis · 05-28-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, except that he can't score TDs and sucks on 3rd down and throws more INTs. But atleast he gets yards! That's what really wins games!

YAY yards!

aturnis · 05-28-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

no, Ortan could throw a pass beyond 5 yards accurately.

As I posted earlier. Inside of 30 yds, Orton and Cassel's completion percentages are nearly identical, Orton is better deep. Cassel has an edge on 3rd down AND inside the 20. If it were any two other guys, you would pick the guy whose advantage was 3rd down and redzone efficiency every time over having a decent deepball.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 10:36 AM

final words before retiring from this thread:
Stanzi or Quinn needs to come through so we dont have to watch Cassel the reerun again this season.

aturnis · 05-28-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

final words before retiring from this thread:
Stanzi or Quinn needs to come through so we dont have to watch Cassel the reerun again this season.

Agreed, thanks for admitting defeat. It was inevitable beings you don't know what you're talking about.

-King- · 05-28-2012, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

final words before retiring from this thread:
Stanzi or Quinn needs to come through so we dont have to watch Cassel the reerun again this season.

Except that Quinn has had 5 seasons to prove he's worth a shit and hasn't. Atleast Cassel is average. Quinn isn't even that.

It's ridiculous that people are pining for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in two years. A guy who's been passed over by 4 different coaching staffs. It's not a big conspiracy against him. He just sucks.

Stanzi could possibly be a good qb, but I'm not holding my breath.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Agreed, thanks for admitting defeat. It was inevitable beings you don't know what you're talking about.

and you do?

read you post and you might get a clue, you dont.

Setsuna · 05-28-2012, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

final words before retiring from this thread:
Stanzi needs to come through so we dont have to watch Cassel the reerun again this season.

FYP! You can leave now.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

FYP! You can leave now.

thanks for playing along.

aturnis · 05-28-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

and you do?

read you post and you might get a clue, you dont.

Facts are facts buddy. You openly admitted you know nothing about Orton outside of three games he played in KC. Fact.

Setsuna · 05-28-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Facts are facts buddy. You openly admitted you know nothing about Orton outside of three games he played in KC. Fact.

I watched Orton last season and the season before. I guarantee he is a terrible QB, but better than Cassel.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Facts are facts buddy. You openly admitted you know nothing about Orton outside of three games he played in KC. Fact.

i never said orton was the second coming of joe montana, i just said he's better than cassole, which thats not very good.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna

I watched Orton last season and the season before. I guarantee he is a terrible QB, but better than Cassel.

how do you like Blaine Gabbert?

Coogs · 05-28-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

WOW! You too! I really hate seeing posters I respect in this light... You argued for a guy you know nothing of?

The team got better when Romeo Crennel took over, not when Orton took over, get it right.

Here is the deal. I had watched Orton a few times, but not enough to have a great opinion on him. When we signed him... I wasn't jumping for joy. And I did not expect much when he got the chance to start. Better than Palko? Yes. I did expect that much.

But even though I did not expect much, I was stunned at the things he could do that Cassel could not do.

Now you can defend your boy Cassel all you want. That is fine. I'm ready to move on. And I do not care if it is Quinn or Stanzi... and those are our only two options.

Don't care if it is Quinn. Don't care if it Stanzi. I just know I have seen enough of Cassel.

Can we win games with Cassel? Sure. But only if the running game is carrying him. I have posted the 3-16 stats many times these past few months. They are what they are. Only way we win with Cassel is running game first. Not that that is a bad plan... I just want another option if Plan A is not working. Plan B is 3-16, and that is not good enough for me.

Can Quinn or Stanzi improve upon that? I have no ****ing clue. Nor do you. But I for one am ready to find out.

BoneKrusher · 05-28-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Can Quinn or Stanzi improve upon that? I have no ****ing clue. Nor do you. But I for one am ready to find out.

make that two of us.

Coogs · 05-28-2012, 11:57 AM

Matter of the fact is, I am a bit of an old schooler. While I like the passing game... I would much prefer to watch Charles run for 200 yards. That's my kind of football.

I just want a QB who can bail us out when that doesn't happen. And I am thinking that either Quinn or Stanzi can win games too... when Charles goes off for 200. That not a skill set that Cassel is the only QB in the NFL can win with.

It's who can provide us with plan B when plan A isn't working. And we all know that isn't Cassel.

Priest Holmes running all over the yard was awesome. Having Trent Green being able to compliment that was a thing of beauty. That's not asking for much, because Trent Grenn is not Canton bound. And I am not trying to steer this thread into a different direction. There was a Plan B that could work with TG on offense. Hell, we could even open the game with plan B, and compliment it with plan A. Sadly, there was just no defense.

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Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1634349	Matter of the fact is, I am a bit of an old schooler. While I like the passing game... I would much prefer to watch Charles run for 200 yards. That's my kind of football. I just want a QB who can bail us out when that doesn't happen. And I am thinking that either Quinn or Stanzi can win games too... when Charles goes off for 200. That not a skill set that Cassel is the only QB in the NFL can win with. It's who can provide us with plan B when plan A isn't working. And we all know that isn't Cassel. Priest Holmes running all over the yard was awesome. Having Trent Green being able to compliment that was a thing of beauty. That's not asking for much, because Trent Grenn is not Canton bound. And I am not trying to steer this thread into a different direction. There was a Plan B that could work with TG on offense. Hell, we could even open the game with plan B, and compliment it with plan A. Sadly, there was just no defense.
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