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Deberg_1990 · 04-12-2013, 06:26 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/

The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit.

Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game.

Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued.

The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox.

This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin.

The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter.

"My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.''

Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that.

"For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.''

Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit.

"That was the final straw,'' he said.

Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times.

"That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.''

Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch.

"We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2?

"It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.''

Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.''

Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games.

Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers.

"I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said.

The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.

AussieChiefsFan · 04-12-2013, 07:31 AM

So is Carlos Quentin going to get fined or suspended or anything?

**Buck** · 04-12-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75

Quentin is a bitch

Greinke is a bitch.

**Predarat** · 04-12-2013, 07:32 AM

That Nolan Ryan beatdown has to be one of the best baseball fights ever. This one looked more like a pillow fight rasslin' match.

BigCatDaddy · 04-12-2013, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

So is Carlos Quentin going to get fined or suspended or anything?

Most likely MLB is going to start going Goodell on guys that go after pitchers like that. Teams don't want their 25million dollar a year pitchers getting injured because some dumbass charges the mound.

AussieChiefsFan · 04-12-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Most likely MLB is going to start going Goodell on guys that go after pitchers like that. Teams don't want their 25million dollar a year pitchers getting injured because some dumbass charges the mound.

Yeah that's what I would have thought. Thanks.

**Buck** · 04-12-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Most likely MLB is going to start going Goodell on guys that go after pitchers like that. Teams don't want their 25million dollar a year pitchers getting injured because some dumbass charges the mound.

If a pitcher doesn't want a brawl, then he needs to stfu after he hits a batter.

Sucks he broke his collarbone, and I'm expecting a 15-20 game suspension for Quentin, but Quentin would have been the bitch had he not confronted Greinke after he ran his mouth off.

ChiefMojo · 04-12-2013, 07:44 AM

Buck let me put it this way... Quentin is a total punk a** b*tch just like you!!!

Quentin has been a piece of sh*t back to his White Sox days but that is par for the course when dealing with White Sox players. Nothing has changed with Quentin and to defend him makes you a punk a** b*tch also!!!

BigCatDaddy · 04-12-2013, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

If a pitcher doesn't want a brawl, then he needs to stfu after he hits a batter.

Sucks he broke his collarbone, and I'm expecting a 15-20 game suspension for Quentin, but Quentin would have been the bitch had he not confronted Greinke after he ran his mouth off.

He most likely told him to get his ass off the plate. If that's Clemons on the mound I suspect Quentin puts his head down and walks to first. It's easy to go after some skinny ass pitcher. Quentin is a puss that wears a suit of armor and stands right on top of the plate daring guys to throw inside.

mikey23545 · 04-12-2013, 07:50 AM

Too bad Zach didn't hit him right in the ol' eye socket.

**Buck** · 04-12-2013, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

He most likely told him to get his ass off the plate. If that's Clemons on the mound I suspect Quentin puts his head down and walks to first. It's easy to go after some skinny ass pitcher. Quentin is a puss that wears a suit or armor and stands right on top of the place daring guys to throw inside.

Did you even see that pitch? It was up and in and Quentin was moving away from the plate.

OmahaChief · 04-12-2013, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Quentin is a puss that wears a suit or armor and stands right on top of the place daring guys to throw inside.

If a black long sleeve T-Shirt is a suit of armor then your are spot on.

**SAUTO** · 04-12-2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Did you even see that pitch? It was up and in and Quentin was moving away from the plate.

sorry buck but he was not moving away from the plate

**Buck** · 04-12-2013, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

sorry buck but he was not moving away from the plate

Yeah I guess not but he didn't lean into it like people are saying.

duncan_idaho · 04-12-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Did you even see that pitch? It was up and in and Quentin was moving away from the plate.

Quentin was not moving away from the plate. He turned into the pitch to take it on the backside of his arm/shoulder rather than in the chest.

Quentin, like a lot of dudes who crowd the plate, doesn't understand why he gets hit so much. It's stupid. He has no one to blame but himself. He's trying to intimidate pitchers into avoiding throwing inside because he's all over the plate and he's a big, strong, scary dude.

That type of crap might work with the Luke Hochevars of the world. But any pitcher with balls is still going to work in there and say "Oh, well" if Quentin gets hit while doing it.

**Mr. Kotter** · 04-12-2013, 08:12 AM

Quentin is an a complete azzhole and douche-nozzle in one.

Any idiot that gets "hit" that often over his career out to be suspended--long term.

Sit his ass unpaid for a long time, to give his sorry ass time to think about it.

04-12-2013, 06:26 AM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Greinke Brawls..breaks collarbone http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...pitch/2076525/ The Los Angeles Dodgers won the game Thursday night against the San Diego Padres, but their pennant hopes certainly took a hit. Dodgers starter Zack Greinke fractured his left collarbone in a bench-clearing brawl during the Dodgers' 3-2 victory over the Padres at Petco Park, prompting enraged Dodgers center fielder Matt Kemp to confront Padres left fielder Carlos Quentin in the clubhouse tunnel after the game. Padres starter Clayton Richard and security guards intervened before another fight ensued. The brawl started when Quentin was hit in the shoulder by Greinke's pitch in the sixth inning. He took several steps towards the mound with his bat, dropped it, and charged Greinke. It was the second time in four years that Greinke hit Quentin, but Quentin was intercepted by Kansas City Royals catcher Miguel Olivo and home-plate umpire Bill Hohn back on April 9, 2009, when Greinke pitched for the Royals and Quentin played for the Chicago White Sox. This time, no one held anyone back, with Greinke, Kemp and Jerry Hairston ejected from the Dodgers, along with Quentin. The biggest losers, of course, were the Dodgers, with Greinke sidelined for an indefinite period. He's scheduled to see Los Angles physician Neal ElAttrache on Friday. Greinke signed a six-year, $147 million free-agent contract during the winter. "My teammate now has a broken f------ collarbone,'' Hairston told reporters. "Excuse my language, but that's unbelievable.'' Said Quentin: "It's unfortunate. It could have been avoided. You can ask Zack about that. "For me, I've been hit by many pitches in my career. I think you guys know that. I can tell you I've never responded in that fashion, so you guys can do your homework on that. For me, the situation is done. That's it.'' Quentin was most infuriated, he told reporters, by what Greinke told him after he was hit. "That was the final straw,'' he said. Kemp, enraged by the incident, met face to face with Quentin in the hallway after the game at Petco Park. He followed Quentin into the parking lot and saying: "We'll see, b----,'' according to the Los Angeles Times. "That's terrible for him to charge the mound like that,'' Kemp told reporters. "I think Carlos Quentin went to Stanford. I heard there's some smart people at Stanford. That wasn't too smart.'' Dodgers manager Don Mattingly said that Quentin shouldn't be permitted to play another game until Greinke can pitch. "We're in a 2-1 game and on a 3-2 pitch to a guy that I see on the [score]board set a record for the Padres by getting hit, a guy who basically dives into the plate,'' Mattingly said, according to the MLB.com report. "In a 2-1 game, we're trying to hit him, 3-2? "It's just stupid is what it is. He should not play a game until Greinke can pitch. If he plays before Greinke pitches, something is wrong.'' Said Greinke: "The only thing I'm going to say about the whole thing that happened there is I've never hit him on purpose. I never thought of hitting him on purpose.'' Quentin has long been a magnet for pitches. In 2004, he set a minor league record by getting plunked 43 times, and he led the major leagues the past two seasons, getting hit 23 times in 2011 and 17 times last year, even though he played just 86 games. Greinke told reporters he thought Quentin's umbrage in reacting to getting hit by pitches was "a ploy" to intimidate pitchers. "I figured he was trying to intimidate pitchers so they wouldn't throw inside,' he said. The Dodgers and Padres play again Monday, this time, in Los Angeles at Dodger Stadium on Jackie Robinson Day.
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