Chiefs Who's stock rose/fell this game?

shammus · 08-16-2008, 09:38 PM

I threw some opinions up after the Bears game so I thought I'd do the same for this game. Here's what I saw in this week's game. I'm sure there's some stuff I'm forgetting but here's what I could come up with off the top of my head for the time being.

Good -

Turk McBride. Solid pressure on the QB and a couple sacks. This is a great sign since DE is one of those positions we're woefully short on. It would be nice if two of our high round draft picks (Hali and McBride) can contribute this year from the end positions while someone like a Brian Johnston works his way into the rotation.

Mike Cox - finally an actual fullback blocking for our halfbacks instead of a bigfoot/boomer type of convert. Cox looked solid in the running game and had a couple nice catches as well. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind him as our starter one bit.

Running game - possibly the deepest position on the Chiefs. Solid performance by really all that played and this will be an interesting battle in camp. Over 100 yards in the first half alone. Kolby Smith had quite a few long runs and Dantrell Savage stood out once again for the second week in a row. I would think Savage would be less expendable than Jackie Battle at this point but I can see the Chiefs keeping 5 guys IF Savage ends up being their return man, which he did a nice job of tonight.

Quarterback play - Croyle looked pretty decent today. I liked how he audibled at the line of scrimmage and he led us on two scoring drives in the early part of the game. I saw him miss on a few passes and overthrew a couple wide open receivers though. Thigpen was a little inconsistant but led us on a decent scoring drive at the end of the game. He seems to lock on to a target too quickly as well.

O-line -

First string looked pretty good. Taylor looked better than he did last week in my opinion and Waters and Niswanger seemed to hold up pretty well in the run game. Wasn't a big fan of MacIntosh's effort today and Adrian Jones seemed to be running after his man several times as well. Our running game got off to a solid start though and Croyle wasn't running for his life back there so that's what really matters I suppose.

Receiving -

I liked what I saw from Maurice Price, but this was the only receiver that stood out in my opinion. Webb caught a couple though and had a couple decent gains. Darling, for the second week in a row was nowhere to be found. I saw Sippio drop a couple passes and had a 3rd bounce off his hands and returned for a touchdown.

Playcalling -

One thing that I've really liked the first two games is how runs are mixed with passes pretty well. The playbook has been truncated but the offense actually looks much more diverse than it did last year. I even noticed a trick play or two thrown in there that actually worked! Gailey's offense should be a big improvement over our run-run-pass offense from last year. Not saying that will result in more wins, but it's not frustrating to watch as last year.

Bad -

BK Sams -

This guy just looks slow to me and I really haven't been impressed by him this year. He's been outperformed by both Savage and Charles I think as well. I don't see him making the team and I don't think things bode well for Kevin Robinson either.

Backup corners -

Allowing too many big plays. Flowers played pretty well in the game but everyone else from Carr on down was somewhat disappointing. The long pass that gave Arizona their third touchdown was pretty bad. Someone must have blown that coverage altogether because that looked like the easiest touchdown pass you'll ever see a team make against us.

Ugly -

The 2nd string offensive-line group. There was a big shift in the Chiefs ability to control the line of scrimmage as soon as this group came in. Barry Richardson completely whiffed on a couple plays and the others weren't much better. It seemed that the entire line of scrimmage was shoved into the backfield on each play for the first two drives after the starters left.

BigRock · 08-16-2008, 09:41 PM

Savage: *****
Gailey: ****
LJ: ****
O-line: ****
Flowers: ****
Turk: ***
Cox: **

Sippio: -***
Barth: -**
Carr: -*

Nightfyre · 08-16-2008, 09:46 PM

Rookie Corners make mistakes. Its gonna take a lot of patience to get through this year, imo.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-16-2008, 09:49 PM

Great to hear the backs looked so good and the electric Jamaal Charles didn't even play. Pretty good stable this team has.

O-line looking up even without Albert and the D holding thier own without a healthy Dorsey. Good news.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-16-2008, 10:01 PM

The coaches need to let Croyle audible out of EVERY play if need be, not just 16 or so like Pearson said in the telecast. EVERY play. He's on a Jake Plummer leash or something.

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Great to hear the backs looked so good and the electric Jamaal Charles didn't even play. Pretty good stable this team has.

O-line looking up even without Albert and the D holding thier own without a healthy Dorsey. Good news.

Yeah, we're stacked at RB. Gonna have to cut a good talent there.

And the starting O-line did look good, even without Albert.

Great news, IMO. Everything starts with blocking and the run game.

Molitoth · 08-16-2008, 10:07 PM

Sippio will now be cut.

Molitoth · 08-16-2008, 10:07 PM

Thigpen looked great.

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Rookie Corners make mistakes. Its gonna take a lot of patience to get through this year, imo.

Flowers did more good than bad, IMO. He's gonna be a quality corner in no time. A pro bowler in a year or three, IMO.

He got burnt a couple times, but that's to be expected. I like the kid.

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

Thigpen looked great.

...for a 3rd down running back.

Molitoth · 08-16-2008, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

...for a 3rd down running back.

exactly!

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

exactly!

Glad to see we're on the same page.

dj56dt58 · 08-16-2008, 10:15 PM

Dorsey didn't play much, but looked dominant when he was in there

**KcMizzou** · 08-16-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Dorsey didn't play much, but looked dominant when he was in there

Double teamed right off the bat, yet he still caused a little havoc.

That's all you can ask, really.

shammus · 08-16-2008, 10:21 PM

I did see Dorsey contribute on a couple back-to-back plays. On the first, he clogged the middle and stuffed the RB at the line of scrimmage. The next play he was double teamed which allowed a couple linebackers to shoot through the gaps. I believe we got a sack out of that play if I remember correctly....

08-16-2008, 09:38 PM
shammus Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $8224957	Who's stock rose/fell this game? I threw some opinions up after the Bears game so I thought I'd do the same for this game. Here's what I saw in this week's game. I'm sure there's some stuff I'm forgetting but here's what I could come up with off the top of my head for the time being. Good - Turk McBride. Solid pressure on the QB and a couple sacks. This is a great sign since DE is one of those positions we're woefully short on. It would be nice if two of our high round draft picks (Hali and McBride) can contribute this year from the end positions while someone like a Brian Johnston works his way into the rotation. Mike Cox - finally an actual fullback blocking for our halfbacks instead of a bigfoot/boomer type of convert. Cox looked solid in the running game and had a couple nice catches as well. I'm thinking I wouldn't mind him as our starter one bit. Running game - possibly the deepest position on the Chiefs. Solid performance by really all that played and this will be an interesting battle in camp. Over 100 yards in the first half alone. Kolby Smith had quite a few long runs and Dantrell Savage stood out once again for the second week in a row. I would think Savage would be less expendable than Jackie Battle at this point but I can see the Chiefs keeping 5 guys IF Savage ends up being their return man, which he did a nice job of tonight. Quarterback play - Croyle looked pretty decent today. I liked how he audibled at the line of scrimmage and he led us on two scoring drives in the early part of the game. I saw him miss on a few passes and overthrew a couple wide open receivers though. Thigpen was a little inconsistant but led us on a decent scoring drive at the end of the game. He seems to lock on to a target too quickly as well. O-line - First string looked pretty good. Taylor looked better than he did last week in my opinion and Waters and Niswanger seemed to hold up pretty well in the run game. Wasn't a big fan of MacIntosh's effort today and Adrian Jones seemed to be running after his man several times as well. Our running game got off to a solid start though and Croyle wasn't running for his life back there so that's what really matters I suppose. Receiving - I liked what I saw from Maurice Price, but this was the only receiver that stood out in my opinion. Webb caught a couple though and had a couple decent gains. Darling, for the second week in a row was nowhere to be found. I saw Sippio drop a couple passes and had a 3rd bounce off his hands and returned for a touchdown. Playcalling - One thing that I've really liked the first two games is how runs are mixed with passes pretty well. The playbook has been truncated but the offense actually looks much more diverse than it did last year. I even noticed a trick play or two thrown in there that actually worked! Gailey's offense should be a big improvement over our run-run-pass offense from last year. Not saying that will result in more wins, but it's not frustrating to watch as last year. Bad - BK Sams - This guy just looks slow to me and I really haven't been impressed by him this year. He's been outperformed by both Savage and Charles I think as well. I don't see him making the team and I don't think things bode well for Kevin Robinson either. Backup corners - Allowing too many big plays. Flowers played pretty well in the game but everyone else from Carr on down was somewhat disappointing. The long pass that gave Arizona their third touchdown was pretty bad. Someone must have blown that coverage altogether because that looked like the easiest touchdown pass you'll ever see a team make against us. Ugly - The 2nd string offensive-line group. There was a big shift in the Chiefs ability to control the line of scrimmage as soon as this group came in. Barry Richardson completely whiffed on a couple plays and the others weren't much better. It seemed that the entire line of scrimmage was shoved into the backfield on each play for the first two drives after the starters left.
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08-16-2008, 09:41 PM	#2
BigRock Pritay Pritay Pritay Good Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $3475412	Savage: *** Gailey: LJ: O-line: Flowers: Turk: * Cox: Sippio: -* Barth: -** Carr: -*
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08-16-2008, 09:46 PM	#3
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08-16-2008, 09:49 PM	#4
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $4028880	Great to hear the backs looked so good and the electric Jamaal Charles didn't even play. Pretty good stable this team has. O-line looking up even without Albert and the D holding thier own without a healthy Dorsey. Good news.
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08-16-2008, 10:01 PM	#5
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $7938717	The coaches need to let Croyle audible out of EVERY play if need be, not just 16 or so like Pearson said in the telecast. EVERY play. He's on a Jake Plummer leash or something. __________________ Don't be fooled by my username, I'm white.
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08-16-2008, 10:15 PM	#13
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	Dorsey didn't play much, but looked dominant when he was in there
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08-16-2008, 10:21 PM	#15
shammus Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $8224957	Chiefs Who's stock rose/fell this game? I did see Dorsey contribute on a couple back-to-back plays. On the first, he clogged the middle and stuffed the RB at the line of scrimmage. The next play he was double teamed which allowed a couple linebackers to shoot through the gaps. I believe we got a sack out of that play if I remember correctly....
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