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Old 06-13-2018, 12:01 AM  
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Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

Massive Genetic Study Reveals 90 Percent Of Earth’s Animals Appeared At The Same Time

30 May 2018, 7:01 am EDT By Nicole Arce Tech Times

Landmark new research that involves analyzing millions of DNA barcodes has debunked much about what we know today about the evolution of species.

In a massive genetic study, senior research associate at the Program for the Human Environment at Rockefeller University Mark Stoeckle and University of Basel geneticist David Thaler discovered that virtually 90 percent of all animals on Earth appeared at right around the same time.

More specifically, they found out that 9 out of 10 animal species on the planet came to being at the same time as humans did some 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

"This conclusion is very surprising," says Thaler, "and I fought against it as hard as I could."

What Is DNA Barcoding?
Over the last decade, hundreds of scientists collected around 5 million DNA barcodes from 100,000 animal species in different parts of the globe. Stoeckle and Thaler looked through these 5 million genetic imprints to find one of the most surprising discoveries about evolution to date.

There are two types of DNA. Most people know nuclear DNA. This is the DNA containing the genetic blueprint for each single individual. It is passed down from the parents to the offspring. The genome is made from kinds types of molecules arranged in pairs. There are 3 billion of these pairs, which are then used to form thousands of genes.

The other, less familiar type of DNA is one found in the mitochondria of cells. The mitochondria generate energy for the cell and contains 37 genes. One of these is the COI gene, which is used to create DNA barcodes. All species have a very similar mitochondrial DNA, but their DNA is also different enough so we can distinguish between species.

Paul Hebert, biologist and director of the Biodiversity Institute of Ontario, developed a new way to identify species by studying the COI gene.

Born Around The Same Time
In analyzing the COI of 100,000 species, Stoeckle and Thaler arrived at the conclusion that most animals appeared simultaneously. They found that the neutral mutation across species were not as varied as expected. Neutral mutation refers to the slight DNA changes that occur across generations. They can be compared to tree rings because they can tell how old a certain specie or individual is.

As to how that could have happened, it's unclear. A likely possibility is the occurrence of a sudden event that caused large-scale environmental trauma and wiped out majority of the Earth's species.

"Viruses, ice ages, successful new competitors, loss of prey — all these may cause periods when the population of an animal drops sharply," explains Jesse Ausubel, director of the Program for the Human Environment.

Such times give rise to sweeping genetic changes across the planet, causing new species to appear. However, the last time such an occurrence took place was 65 million years ago, when an asteroid hit the Earth and killed off the dinosaurs and half of all other species on the planet.

The study is published in the journal Human Evolution:
https://phe.rockefeller.edu/news/wp-...al-reduced.pdf

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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/22...-same-time.htm
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:35 AM   #46
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You really think its possible that 90% of animals, as diverse as they are, all started evolving independantly at the same time?

That does in fact fly in the face of most theories of evolution.
That's not what the study says. That's what the headline says.

Again, pop science.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:40 AM   #47
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"Evolution is change in the heritable traits of biological populations over successive generations. Evolutionary processes give rise to diversity at every level of biological organisation, including the levels of species, individual organisms, and molecules."

Nothing contradictory at all. New species arise very quickly when there is stress put on an environment. If a major event happened 100,000 years ago that caused massive environmental changes it would put stresses on species, killing many off leaving "a few". With the stresses on the environments new species would quickly arise. That is evolution in a nutshell.
It's not like it would be the first time life exploded after an extinction event, but we can't test the DNA of animals from 200 million years ago.
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That's not what the study says. That's what the headline says.

Again, pop science.
Yeah, I probably should have said this as well. I was just stating that what the study finds does not go against evolution. I didn't really read closely what he said, just that last sentence.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:46 AM   #49
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Yeah, I probably should have said this as well. I was just stating that what the study finds does not go against evolution. I didn't really read closely what he said, just that last sentence.
Ugh. There are still people who think we discovered a particle that moves faster than the speed of light because of bad pop science headlines and a failure to correct when it was proven to be a mistake.

Studies are dense and people tend to not like reading them. The writers who are tasked with translating these findings do a very piss poor job and often rely on click bait headlines rather than an accurate summation of the study.
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This isn't new. There have been several mass extinction events in Earths history. Life rebounds fairly quickly and major evolution slows until the next major extinction event. The very first organisms actually killed themselves when creating Earths oxygen atmosphere.
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"Tech Times".....seriously? Really.....


Friggin' hilarious (and predictable) that TJ and stevie would consider stupidity like this as anything close to legitimate....

Holy shit, this place has truly been taken over by nutjob extremist fringe politics....



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"Tech Times".....seriously? Really.....


Friggin' hilarious (and predictable) that TJ and stevie would consider stupidity like this as anything close to legitimate....

Holy shit, this place has truly been taken over by nutjob extremist fringe politics....



Uhhhh... the paper is a peer reviewed evolutionary study and has six pages of citations. Of course it's legitimate. It doesn't mean it's correct, but it made it through peer review.

Who cares about tech times? It's just a pop science website. People post shit from pop science sites all the time around here. It's not something to shit talk about is it? I mean I mock pop science, but I credit TJ for linking the study itself.

Christ, this isn't even political. It wouldn't even be here if some people didn't want to make some inference that this proves creation... but it doesn't. The study doesn't indicate that at all.
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Ugh. There are still people who think we discovered a particle that moves faster than the speed of light because of bad pop science headlines and a failure to correct when it was proven to be a mistake.

Studies are dense and people tend to not like reading them. The writers who are tasked with translating these findings do a very piss poor job and often rely on click bait headlines rather than an accurate summation of the study.
At least we still have cold fusion.
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