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Old 06-13-2018, 07:18 AM  
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Chris Conley Vs Demarcus Robinson

These guys are likely to be battling it out for the third WR role in the team once the season starts. So the question is who are yall backing to win the spot? I heard Ryan Tracy and his buddy Chris blowing smoke up Conley's ass yesterday, saying it would be "ridiculous" if Robinson gets in ahead of him and I wondered why on earth would that be the case? Conley has been here for three years and has the grand total of ONE TD to his name!!...ONE.

Now granted, he may have been held back by Smith a little, but Is there anything in his game that he has that Robinson doesn't have? Imo Robinson is quicker, he's more elusive, gets separation better and has shown he can make tough catches all over the field whether it's underneath or over the top. Yet the way those guys were talking about Conley, you would have thought he was Randy Moss part two .

I just look at the last two games Robinson played against Denver and the Titans and I thought he was very decent indeed. His connection with Mahomes should also work In his favor too. If Conley proves me wrong and becomes an important cog in the offense then I'll gladly hold my hands up and admit I was wrong. But I just don't see anything special about the guy at all. And with him having only one year left on his contract, Robinson would be the one worth investing in now I think.
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Old 06-13-2018, 10:59 AM   #31
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Robinson's spectacular catches were the product of even more spectacular Mahomes throws. Quite frankly we haven't really even seen Conley given the opportunity to make catches like that.

As far as separation goes, that's highly debateable. It's already been pointed out to you; Conley has been more productive on half as many targets. That alone should make you question what you THINK you're seeing.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:02 AM   #32
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Is that you Ryan or Chris? First of all some of the so-called "catches" Robinson dropped against Denver were damn near impossible to catch. Mahomes either threw it too strongly or overthrew him on more than one occasion. The fact Is Robinson beat his man several times and Pat just wasn't on target on those occasions, which is why I don't put the blame on Demarcus. Secondly, there is no way Conley is more elusive or faster over a short distance than Robinson is, that's just bullcrap. Imo Conley is just a guy who can catch the odd ball here and there and maybe keep a drive going. Robinson on the other hand, has a great ability to beat his man and get separation, plus he can make tough catches all across the field.

Robinson showed against the Titans that he can handle the big stage, Conley has just been average ever since he turned up at Arrowhead.
Okay, so this is just you fanboing over Robinson.

Got it. Just ignore everything I said. You're committed to exalting another average/below average WR.

It's not worth it to me to even discuss it. Our season hinges on neither.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:04 AM   #33
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I can show you evidence actually. HERE is where the drive started against the Titans when he got his TD. I caught four balls in that drive on the left, middle and right-hand side of the field. And all of them he got separation with the last catch coming after he dodged a jam and juked another defender.

And In THIS preseason game against the Titans he made three big catches too.

Now, show me evidence that Conley has this sort of elusiveness, separation and catching skills in his arsenal!!!..I'd love to see it.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:07 AM   #34
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Conley is the better athlete, but my eyes tell me that Robinson is the more natural football player.

This is a good problem to have.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:07 AM   #35
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has there ever been a more overrated CP favorite than Chris Conley? I remember his rookie year where people were predicting him to get 600-800 yards.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:12 AM   #36
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Okay, so this is just you fanboing over Robinson.

Got it. Just ignore everything I said. You're committed to exalting another average/below average WR.

It's not worth it to me to even discuss it. Our season hinges on neither.
They're both average

I think Robinson has a higher ceiling
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:12 AM   #37
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Robinson's just a guy. If it's not Conley, it needs to be someone else.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:14 AM   #38
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:26 AM   #39
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Robinson's spectacular catches were the product of even more spectacular Mahomes throws. Quite frankly we haven't really even seen Conley given the opportunity to make catches like that.

As far as separation goes, that's highly debateable. It's already been pointed out to you; Conley has been more productive on half as many targets. That alone should make you question what you THINK you're seeing.
Well the stats aren't the only thing that's important though. I mean, I saw Alex miss Robinson several times after he got separation and I saw Mahomes overthrow him four times against Denver, so it's hardly his fault, is it? Conley was also much more involved in the system, so of course, his stats should be better. The fact remains though that he only has one TD to his name after three seasons and that simply sucks.
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:29 AM   #40
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Okay, so this is just you fanboing over Robinson.

Got it. Just ignore everything I said. You're committed to exalting another average/below average WR.

It's not worth it to me to even discuss it. Our season hinges on neither.
Yep, I knew you'd run a mile when video evidence was presented!!..Where's that "athleticism" you've been raving about?
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Old 06-13-2018, 11:31 AM   #41
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Conley is the better athlete, but my eyes tell me that Robinson is the more natural football player.

This is a good problem to have.
BINGO!!!..but some folks seem to think we're talking about track and field here so football skills don't matter .
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I can show you evidence actually. HERE is where the drive started against the Titans when he got his TD. I caught four balls in that drive on the left, middle and right-hand side of the field. And all of them he got separation with the last catch coming after he dodged a jam and juked another defender.

And In THIS preseason game against the Titans he made three big catches too.

Now, show me evidence that Conley has this sort of elusiveness, separation and catching skills in his arsenal!!!..I'd love to see it.
Interesting slip of the tongue there.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:01 PM   #43
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They're both average

I think Robinson has a higher ceiling
Best answer.

Neither will be special but Robinson look more of a football player and natural than Conley.

Robinson is also two years younger so he possibly has more room to develop. He came into this league young.
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Old 06-13-2018, 12:19 PM   #44
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I gotta say its nice that these guys are competing to be our 3/4 WR...instead of 1/2 like were used to.
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BINGO!!!..but some folks seem to think we're talking about track and field here so football skills don't matter .
You said Robinson was more athletic. People are just pointing out you are wrong.

My primary argument was production and efficiency... which you countered by cherry picking a few plays.
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