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Old 06-13-2018, 01:01 PM  
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Arizona Court Orders Christian Store Owners to Make Gay Wedding Invitations

PHOENIX (AP) — An Arizona appeals court on Thursday upheld a Phoenix anti-discrimination law that makes it illegal for businesses to refuse service to same-sex couples because of religion.

The ruling comes days after the U.S. Supreme Court sided with a Colorado baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. The high court found Monday that a Colorado civil rights commission showed anti-religious bias when it ruled against Jack Phillips for refusing to make the cake at his Masterpiece Cakeshop.

The decision, however, did not address the larger issue of whether a business can invoke religious objections to refuse service to gay and lesbian people.

In the Arizona case, the state Court of Appeals sided with the city in a lawsuit first brought in 2016 by a wedding invitation business, saying the ordinance is constitutional and does not violate freedom of religion or speech....more...

https://azdailysun.com/news/state-an...6db2bbbbf.html
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:09 PM   #2
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At first blush, this case seems to be an obvious example of why it was cowardly of Diana Roberts and the Supremes to punt on the issue when they could have dealt with it during the bakery case.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:12 PM   #3
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I need more information.

If the store is simply taking orders (photo goes in this space on the template, select your typeface from these six choices, tell us where you want it delivered and we'll send in a print order and mark it up to make our profit), I can see how this is a different matter than the one that set off the Masterpiece Cake Shop incident.

On the other hand, if the business provides a unique creative service and every invitation is a custom creation beyond simple plug and play, I'd absolutely side with the creative professional. Get your invitations elsewhere.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:13 PM   #4
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At first blush, this case seems to be an obvious example of why it was cowardly of Diana Roberts and the Supremes to punt on the issue when they could have dealt with it during the bakery case.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:37 PM   #5
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I need more information.

If the store is simply taking orders (photo goes in this space on the template, select your typeface from these six choices, tell us where you want it delivered and we'll send in a print order and mark it up to make our profit), I can see how this is a different matter than the one that set off the Masterpiece Cake Shop incident.

On the other hand, if the business provides a unique creative service and every invitation is a custom creation beyond simple plug and play, I'd absolutely side with the creative professional. Get your invitations elsewhere.
I see your point. Says here, in the link, it's customized design.

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The three-judge panel said a stationery store that includes the customized design of wedding event merchandise is not "entitled to First Amendment free speech protections."

"The case before us is one of a blanket refusal of service to the LGBTQ community," the judges said.
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Old 06-13-2018, 01:41 PM   #8
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In thinking about this and the cake thing.....

If you are a ghey couple...do you really want to do business with someone who doesn't want to do business with you? Why not go on to the next shop and see if it is ghey-friendly?
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In thinking about this and the cake thing.....

If you are a ghey couple...do you really want to do business with someone who doesn't want to do business with you? Why not go on to the next shop and see if it is ghey-friendly?
Because tolerance is not enough. You must support them above all other people and issues.
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In thinking about this and the cake thing.....

If you are a ghey couple...do you really want to do business with someone who doesn't want to do business with you? Why not go on to the next shop and see if it is ghey-friendly?

It isn't about doing business with a baker that doesn't want to violate his own principles. It is about PUNISHING the baker that refuses to bake a cake that violates HIS principles.

I have no doubt that these perverts couldn't go down the street and get whatever the hell it is that they want. Nope. They want to make the point that NO ONE can REFUSE gays. NO ONE.

Truthfully - I am sick to death of this shit.
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Those mushrooms are racist. No chocolate ones.
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It isn't about doing business with a baker that doesn't want to violate his own principles. It is about PUNISHING the baker that refuses to bake a cake that violates HIS principles.

I have no doubt that these perverts couldn't go down the street and get whatever the hell it is that they want. Nope. They want to make the point that NO ONE can REFUSE gays. NO ONE.

Truthfully - I am sick to death of this shit.
So much for live and let live. It's about destruction of private property rights to me and this is where it becomes cultural Marxism instead of tolerance.
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In thinking about this and the cake thing.....

If you are a ghey couple...do you really want to do business with someone who doesn't want to do business with you? Why not go on to the next shop and see if it is ghey-friendly?
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