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Coogs · 09-03-2012, 01:26 PM

Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn.

I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week.

Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards.

Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards.

The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills.

Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily.

The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together.

Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players.

3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down.

3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down.

3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured.

Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD.

That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them.

I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.

CoMoChief · 09-04-2012, 03:11 PM

This thread has people in it, pimping out Brady ****ing Quinn.

the way this franchise has handled the QB position over the years has completely stupified it's own fanbase.

Chiefnj2 · 09-04-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

This thread has people in it, pimping out Brady ****ing Quinn.

the way this franchise has handed the QB position over the years has completely stupified it's own fanbase.

If KC plays its cards right next year Quinn can compete with Clausen and Carr to be KC's QB.

crazycoffey · 09-04-2012, 03:13 PM

Im in the "Quinn is the best chiefs QB right now" camp.

CoMoChief · 09-04-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

Im in the "Quinn is the best chiefs QB right now" camp.

Based off of what?

crazycoffey · 09-04-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Based off of what?

My eyes. /not wanting to be viewed as "PIMPING" Brady....

jd1020 · 09-04-2012, 03:32 PM

Quinn misses an easy touchdown on a 5 yard slant by throwing the ball 10 feet behind Baldwin and throws an end zone interception. Now he's the savior of the Chiefs.

CoMoChief · 09-04-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Barney Stinson

My eyes. /not wanting to be viewed as "PIMPING" Brady....

So tell me....what did you "see" that led you to come to this hilarious conclusion?

CoMoChief · 09-04-2012, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Quinn misses an easy touchdown on a 5 yard slant by throwing the ball 10 feet behind Baldwin and throws an end zone interception. Now he's the savior of the Chiefs.

First of all it wasn't Baldwin IIRC. Not that it matters, but I think it may have been Newsome. I can't remember, all I know that it wasn't Baldwin or any of the main starters.

Secondly....the WR stopped in his route. Ball was still somewhat poorly thrown...but not entirely his fault.

Either way he's nowhere close to being the savior for KC or should he even be starting NFL reg season games.

Pasta Little Brioni · 09-04-2012, 03:41 PM

Sadly, Cassel is the best QB on the roster at the moment. Didn't see anything to see otherwise in the preseason and I hoped I would.

jd1020 · 09-04-2012, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

First of all it wasn't Baldwin IIRC. Not that it matters, but I think it may have been Newsome. I can't remember, all I know that it wasn't Baldwin or any of the main starters.

Secondly....the WR stopped in his route. Ball was still somewhat poorly thrown...but not entirely his fault.

Either way he's nowhere close to being the savior for KC or should he even be starting NFL reg season games.

"2-7-GB 8 (3:05) (Shotgun) 9-B.Quinn pass incomplete short left to 89-J.Baldwin."

The interception is both on the receiver and the QB. Horrible effort by the WR and horrible throw by Quinn.

durtyrute · 09-04-2012, 03:50 PM

Quinn and Stanzi both have higher ceilings than Cassel.

jd1020 · 09-04-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Quinn and Stanzi both have higher ceilings than Cassel.

Doesn't matter when they are currently on floors 10 stories below Cassel.

Bewbies · 09-04-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Quinn and Stanzi both have higher ceilings than Cassel.

It's probably more of a chair rail than a ceiling.

Jayrodt · 09-04-2012, 04:04 PM

Cassel probably has the worst pocket presence in the league, so Quinn would be an upgrade in that regard. Quinn also has the pedigree of being a first round QB, while Cassel has never looked the part.

But from what we've seen, Cassel is our guy. I always liked Quinn when he wasn't playing for the Broncos, so if he unseats Cassel by playing out of his mind in relief I would be all for it. But form what we've seen from both of them this preseason I couldn't make a legitimate case for Quinn having very good odds.

whoman69 · 09-04-2012, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by durtyrute

Quinn and Stanzi both have higher ceilings than Cassel.

Quinn doesn't have a ceiling.

Brady Quinn's career stats extrapolated to a full season:

245-470 52.1 % 2536 yards, 13TD, 12INT, 5.4 YPA

Those numbers are more Tebow-like than Cassel-like

09-03-2012, 01:26 PM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $1694349	I think the QB of the future may be on our roster already. Laugh if you must, but I really think the QB we are looking for might be Brady Quinn. I re-watched the game from last Thursday this morning. All-in-all, I felt like Quinn was very sharp... given the fact that he just started getting some time with the first string players earlier in the week. Cassel's only pass, and Quinn's first pass were nearly the identical same play. Bowe had to go to the ground to catch Cassel's throw. Breaston caught Quinn's right were the ball should have been thrown, and turned it up-field for 3 or so more yards. Quinn's 2nd pass was a beautifully thrown ball that hit Baldwin right in stride, and Baldwin was able to turn it up for several more yards. The next two passes were highly criticized around here after/since the game. I did not see that much there that can not be fixed... once Quinn gets more time with the #1's to get timing issues worked out. All thorughout OTA's and Training Camp, I never recall hearing Quinn (or Stanzi) making any plays with any #1 receivers. Not even during drills. Anyway. On the first one, as slant pass to Baldwin, it looks like just a matter of timing. They were on the same page... but just didn't connect. More reps together to develop some chemistry, and that is a TD easily. The next play... which was an Interception that was negated by a penalty on the Packers... that had a whistle blown in the middle of the play... it appeared that Baldwin and Quinn were not on the same page. Quinn's pass appeared that he expected Baldwin to go inside instead of on the fade route that Baldwin ran. Again, more reps together to develop the right chemistry so they are reading the right thing. Baldwin cuts inside, and that is a TD. Quinn throws the fade pass, and it is also probably a TD. Not on same page. That has to be understandable given the minimal amount of time the two have had together. Next drive was all backups. Line and skill players. 3rd and 7. Hits Bellamy right on the button for an easy first down. 3rd and 9. Hits Manari right on the numbers for another first down. 3rd and 8. QB draw type of run that would have made Elway proud right up to the non-slide that got him slightly injured. Then the next pass that has been widely criticized around here. The Interception on the back of the endzone. Again, this was with his backups and not the starters, which gives no excuse to Quinn. BUT... he starts out looking to his left. Staying with his progression, he moves to the middle of the field. At this point, Harris is getting his ass kicked by a Packers defender causing Quinn to have to step up into the pocket, which is collapsing under the 2nd string line. A half of a second more at the most, and Manari is comming wide open on a TE drag across just a little right of where Quinn made the decision to throw. Tiny bit better pocket, and that ball goes to Manari if Quinn has the time to finish his reads and that is an easy TD. That is all the further I watched. And that was all the further I needed to watch. I am convinced Quinn is going to be just what the doctor ordered for this team. All he needs is more time with the #1's to get on the same page with them. I know Cassel is the starter for now. I can accept that. He is not the best QB though. And it is not even going to be close... in time.
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Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $4068880	Sadly, Cassel is the best QB on the roster at the moment. Didn't see anything to see otherwise in the preseason and I hoped I would. __________________ **Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner**
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durtyrute MVP Join Date: Mar 2011 Casino cash: $8326085	Quinn and Stanzi both have higher ceilings than Cassel.
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Jayrodt Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Casino cash: $10004900	Cassel probably has the worst pocket presence in the league, so Quinn would be an upgrade in that regard. Quinn also has the pedigree of being a first round QB, while Cassel has never looked the part. But from what we've seen, Cassel is our guy. I always liked Quinn when he wasn't playing for the Broncos, so if he unseats Cassel by playing out of his mind in relief I would be all for it. But form what we've seen from both of them this preseason I couldn't make a legitimate case for Quinn having very good odds.
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