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**Tribal Warfare** · 07-05-2013, 11:21 PM

Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters

The Kansas City Star
Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks.

That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live.

Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is).

Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith:

“A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith.

“The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132.

“Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL.

“This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route.

“One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling.

“It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.”

Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far:

No. 32 Matt Flynn

No. 31 Jake Locker

No. 30 Kevin Kolb

No. 29 Chad Henne

No. 28 Mark Sanchez

No. 27 Christian Ponder

No. 26 Brandon Weeden

No. 25 Michael Vick

No. 24 Ryan Tannehill

No. 23 Carson Palmer

No. 22 Sam Bradford

No. 21 Josh Freeman

Marcellus · 07-07-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

If it is so bad. If this organization is not worthy of your fan trust and they are a ****ing POS then why in the **** don't you stop following them? Why don't you just leave this board and stop being a douche because no one worth a shit wants to keep hearing your stupid ass bantering on about your ****ing hatred.
DON'T GO AWAY MAD!!!!!! JUST GO AWAY!!!!!!!!

He just enjoys the attention and thinks its cool. I m pretty sure he is 12.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Bitching about something for a little while is one thing. But it has been 3 months of constant nothing but bitching and bashing from you. You damn right I will bitch here and there but that is all.
It will do no good. I am not in control of this team in anyway. I can either accept that and know that the Chiefs are just entertainment. Entertainment is suppose to be fun. Bitching and acting the way you have been cannot be fun. If it isn't fun then how can it be entertaining.

It's fun for me. And that......is good enough.

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So there is no way any Chief QB can succeed especially if we didn't draft him. As soon as we draft a guy in the 1st round its only a matter of time before the SB trophies and the Hall of Fame become reality.

It's a start. And the facts and stats don't lie, homeboy.

MagicHef · 07-07-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I don't think there's anyone here that doesn't want Smith to succeed. We've seen before though so it's hard to go all in.

Me. I don't want Smith to succeed.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Me. I don't want Smith to succeed.

The chances are not very good in any event.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

It's fun for me. And that......is good enough.

Seek professional help. That is not mentally healthy.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Seek professional help. That is not mentally healthy.

Actually, it's very healthy. By bringing my inner jackass to a pointless message board, I'm able to leave him at home when I venture out in to the real world.

Chief Roundup · 07-07-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Actually, it's very healthy. By bringing my inner jackass to a pointless message board, I'm able to leave him at home when I venture out in to the real world.

Ok we have a person that is admitting to being a psychotic personality.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-07-2013, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Ok we have a person that is admitting to being a psychotic personality.

Thanks, Lucy. Shall I PayPal you the .5 cents now or later?

Rasputin · 07-08-2013, 08:09 AM

Jaws rated Phyllis Rivers @17. Didn't say much good about him, a pocket passer that depends on good solid line blocking to be productive. Struggles when trying to do too much. Didn't have a good out look for him with the Chargers for 2013 season.

**HemiEd** · 07-08-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

I'll say it first:

If Smith stays healthy, he'll break into the top ten, or close, in Reid's offense.

**HemiEd** · 07-08-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

neither is randomly grabbing a semi-available QB because nothing else is available

it's like taking home a 3 because the bar is closing and you admit you are too desperate to wait until tomorrow to have a chance at an 8

This team has been "Going Ugly Early" for over 30 years now, it is what they do.

duncan_idaho · 07-08-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

I don't think there's anyone here that doesn't want Smith to succeed. We've seen before though so it's hard to go all in.

My order of preference:

1) Smith proves everyone wrong and is BETTER in Andy Reid's offense than he was in Jim Harbaugh's. His efficiency holds up when asked to do more, and his atrocious performance on 3rd down becomes a distant memory. He becomes a near-elite/top 15/borderline top 10 QB.

2) Smith is WORSE than he was in Harbaugh's offense, preventing the Chiefs from tying themselves to him long-term.

3) Smith is about the same as he was in Harbaugh's offense, though his efficiency numbers drop when asked to throw more often and be more aggressive with the football. He remains somewhere between the 15th and 22nd best QB in the NFL, good enough to make the playoffs with a strong defense and running game but probably not good enough to win at a significant level when matched up against teams with elite QBs.

If I was to rank them in order of what I think is likely, I put about a 75 percent chance on 3, 20 percent on 2 and 5 percent on 1.

I have a feeling we see an extension if 3 is what ends up happening. And I don't think that's really a good thing (unless they draft the heir apparent in the background and have him ready to take over by 15 or 16).

ChiefAshhole20 · 07-08-2013, 10:30 AM

Even if Smith gets an extension, I doubt it will be anywhere near a legitimate "starter" contract, and instead will be around 7 a year for maybe 2 or 3 years at most. Reid isn't the kind of coach to be ok with mediocre QB play, and will only keep Smith around until a better option arises.

Mr. Laz · 07-08-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

Even if Smith gets an extension, I doubt it will be anywhere near a legitimate "starter" contract, and instead will be around 7 a year for maybe 2 or 3 years at most. Reid isn't the kind of coach to be ok with mediocre QB play, and will only keep Smith around until a better option arises.

no way Smith gets a contract that small.

It's another way the Smith trade could cost us big.

Smith plays average this year but it's contributed to being on a new team,new scheme and new players etc.

Next year Smith plays average until the final few games. He has a really good 2 or 3 games to finish the season and everyone talks about how they team has now settled in etc and this is the "real" thing.

Alex Smith's contract is now up ... do you really think they can/will not give him a new contract based on those last 2/3 games instead of the rest of the average ones?

boom ... 6 years/60 million

We as much as we traded for Smith the only way(s) we get a franchise QB is if:

1. Smith is a franchise QB
2. we get lucky with a low round guy (ie Bray etc)

either is a long shot imo

L.A. Chieffan · 07-08-2013, 11:38 AM

Smith should really be in the top ten or so. Jaws has something against the chiefs for some reason.

07-05-2013, 11:21 PM
Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $1002813	Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters Jaworski rates Chiefs QB at No. 20 among NFL starters The Kansas City Star Former NFL quarterback-turned-broadcaster Ron Jaworski ranks new Chiefs quarterback Alex Smith No. 20 among the NFL's 32 starting quarterbacks. That's according to Jaworski's ratings on ESPN's MediaZone site, transcribed from his three-minute daily segments dubbed "Jaws' QB Countdown" on SportsCenter and NFL Live. Smith, of course, was acquired in a trade from San Francisco this offseason, and has yet to throw a pass in Kansas City (aside from OTAs, that is). Here are some excerpts from Jaworski's evaluation of Smith: “A year ago, Smith was coming off his best season in the NFL, having led the 49ers to the NFC Championship. This year, he’s the starting quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs. It was a great move by (Chiefs coach) Andy Reid to acquire Smith. “The defining element of Smith’s play is efficiency. He executes the offense the way it’s designed, and he makes very few mistakes. Last season – for the second year in a row – he was exceptional on first down. In 2012 he led the NFL in first-down passing, with a quarterback rating of 119. Much of it came off play-action, or in the case of the 49ers, hard run-action out of base personnel. There was no better play-action quarterback last season than Smith. He had a quarterback rating of over 132. “Smith has been outstanding out of multiple tight end personnel over the last couple of seasons. No quarterback has thrown the ball more with three tight ends on the field. You don’t see that very often in today’s NFL. “This play was beautifully designed with all three tight ends to the same side. First, look at the impact of the run-action on the two linebackers and the safety. This was hard run-action. Then you see that Delanie Walker’s vertical route occupied the corner. That left Vernon Davis matched on a safety, a safety that initially reacted to run. He had no chance on Davis’ wheel route. “One area Smith improved in 2012 was in the pre-snap phase of the game. He was much better at the line of scrimmage checking and audibling. “It will be interesting to see what Andy Reid does in Kansas City. Don’t be surprised if he turns Smith loose a little bit and features an up-tempo offense with an emphasis on quick throws. Remember, Alex Smith played for Urban Meyer at Utah.” Other QB's that Jaworski has analyzed so far: No. 32 Matt Flynn No. 31 Jake Locker No. 30 Kevin Kolb No. 29 Chad Henne No. 28 Mark Sanchez No. 27 Christian Ponder No. 26 Brandon Weeden No. 25 Michael Vick No. 24 Ryan Tannehill No. 23 Carson Palmer No. 22 Sam Bradford No. 21 Josh Freeman
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