Broncos confirm Chiefs had formula to reach Super Bowl

[BigRedChief]

Broncos confirm Chiefs had formula to reach Super Bowl


One week after being eliminated from the postseason, Kansas City Chiefs fans are learning more about where their team must improve to get to the Super Bowl next season.

In an outcome not many expected, the Denver Broncos (cringing writing this) downed the New England Patriots 20-18 which has allowed them to advance to their eighth Super Bowl.


Just a week before the Patriots loss many were gushing over how great this offense was in New England. Not many gave the Broncos much of a chance after watching them have so much success against Kansas City. We rationed with reasoning based on stats like the Broncos being ranked in the 20s in scoring and the Patriots being third. We thought about Manning’s playoff history and his age becoming factor.


What we didn’t consider was how truly great the Broncos defense is. Denver was able to smother New England with its coverage and pass rush unlike what the Chiefs had hoped to do in their previous matchup with the Patriots.


The Broncos actually ran a simulation in real time of what Kansas City’s game plan would look like if it was executed. Peyton Manning wasn’t spectacular but emulated an Alex Smith like approach to running the offense and taking care of the ball. That along with playing outstanding defense sacking Tom Brady four times and forcing two interceptions was enough to get to the Super Bowl. This leaves Chiefs fans feeling like they had the winning recipe but were derailed by injuries.



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[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Now let me be clear - I don't generally put Sutton in the overmatched category, but he's not dynamic by any means. Getting from incompetent to competent can make you a playoff team but it's looking more and more like you need coordinators that are legitimately good to excel once you get there.

I've seen Sutton fail to adjust too many times to include him in that tier. I don't believe he's generally a liability (though he certainly was against the Pats), but I'm starting to question if he's good enough to be in charge of the premier unit on this squad. I question if he's good enough to take a defense-first team to a championship.

Sutton isn't overmatched unless he's facing a Tom Brady/Belichick/McDaniels or a healthy Andrew Luck/Bruce Arians, etc.

He's good, he's just not great.

And IMO, what happened in New England is the same exact thing that happened in Indy and against San Diego in 2013: Without all of his pieces completely healthy, he fails to adapt. He treats Dee Ford the same as Justin Houston, Frank Zombo like Hali, Dunte Robinson like Brandon Flowers and so on.

He has no ability to adapt, improvise or think outside of his game plan.

But is he awful? No. Is he great? No. He's probably closer to the mid-90's Gunther Cunningham than Jim Schwartz, Vic Fangio or Rex Ryan.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Sutton isn't overmatched unless he's facing a Tom Brady/Belichick/McDaniels or a healthy Andrew Luck/Bruce Arians, etc.

He's good, he's just not great.

And IMO, what happened in New England is the same exact thing that happened in Indy and against San Diego in 2013: Without all of his pieces completely healthy, he fails to adapt. He treats Dee Ford the same as Justin Houston, Frank Zombo like Hali, Dunte Robinson like Brandon Flowers and so on.

He has no ability to adapt, improvise or think outside of his game plan.

But is he awful? No. Is he great? No. He's probably closer to the mid-90's Gunther Cunningham than Jim Schwartz, Vic Fangio or Rex Ryan.

I agree, though there isn't jack shit he can do when he only has 2 CB's available. Losing Gaines hurt BAD, and the Pats did exactly what GB did by setting up plays with multiple receivers to utilize the slot, or just whoever we had to help in those packages (Branch).

It's reeruned when posters try to shit on Sutton for that and compare it to Denver.
Denver loses Roby and Von then they are completely ****ed.


Bottom line: add another CB. We can't rely on Gaines to always be healthy.

[O.city]

I don't think we had the secondary personal to do to ne what denver did.

With no nickel corner, a safety doing it, and our pass rushers out, man I just don't think we had the horses there.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by O.city

I don't think we had the secondary personal to do to ne what denver did.

With no nickel corner, a safety doing it, and our pass rushers out, man I just don't think we had the horses there.

However, the broncos just used the blueprint to beat ne. It would have been a risk to do it for the chiefs, but in that situation, you've got to do it and live with the results.

In the end, even doing what we did, you can't drop 3 picks and turn it over in their territory like we did.

[MagicHef]

KC blitzed often, Denver almost always rushed 3 or 4.
KC gave a big cushion, Denver pressed the receivers.

I'm not sure how Denver followed KC's blueprint.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

KC blitzed often, Denver almost always rushed 3 or 4.
KC gave a big cushion, Denver pressed the receivers.

I'm not sure how Denver followed KC's blueprint.

Denver did what they could BC they didn't have Frank ****ing Zombo and a Safety at CB out there

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Denver did what they could BC they didn't have Frank ****ing Zombo and a Safety at CB out there

I don't disagree.

I also don't see how Denver "followed KC's blueprint".

[RealSNR]

Wade Phillips.

It can't be said enough. If the Donks has bob sutton running their show, ten bucks says they don't even make the playoffs

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I don't disagree.

I also don't see how Denver "followed KC's blueprint".

It's the suggestion that having a sound team, great defense and game manager QB... saying that Denver made it work to advance to the SB while all they've heard is that it would never work.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It's the suggestion that having a sound team, great defense and game manager QB... saying that Denver made it work to advance to the SB while all they've heard is that it would never work.

I think it's more saying denver ran the same defensive strategy the chiefs have this year to best brady and the pats, yet the chiefs, for some reason, didn't do that

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Wade Phillips.

It can't be said enough. If the Donks has bob sutton running their show, ten bucks says they don't even make the playoffs

The best thing they did was clean house with the coaches... I went back and read the thread focused on the hiring of Kubiak. Some funny stuff in there, a lot of it came true, even though they still advanced.

But, totally ... the change in mindset with the coaches has been the biggest upgrade from 2014.

[Demonpenz]

Houston and Hali suck. Sutton sucks. Ware and Miller are awesome. The end.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's not a ****ing excuse, Laz, it's a fact: The Chiefs were without their #1 WR and their #1 RB (or #2, if you want to call West the #1).

REGARDLESS of Sutton's inability to disrupt Brady and the WR's, their presence would have changed the game dramatically.

WE ALL KNOW HOW MUCH YOU HATE SUTTON.

JFC.

blah,blah,blah

making excuses, deflecting ... moving the goalpost

just generally being full of shit in some lame attempt to defend Sutton

Didn't hate Dwayne Bowe
Don't hate Bob Sutton

It isn't about hating/liking someone.

It's about seeing the benefits and/or flaws of someone as opposes to talking out of his ass trying to defend his team.

Nothing changes that fact that Sutton is slow to adjust and had a shit scheme against the patriots.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

blah,blah,blah

making excuses, deflecting ... moving the goalpost

just generally being full of shit in some lame attempt to defend Sutton

Didn't hate Dwayne Bowe
Don't hate Bob Sutton

It isn't about hating/liking someone.

It's about seeing the benefits and/or flaws of someone as opposes to talking out of his ass trying to defend his team.

Nothing changes that fact that Sutton is slow to adjust and had a shit scheme against the patriots.

The facts are that when healthy we saw us do to that team in 2014 what Denver just did to them.

The Chiefs played off man bc they didn't have the horses. If the Broncos don't have Von or Roby in that game they would have gotten KILLED playing press.

Press man coverage doesn't ****ing work when you have no pressure on the QB.

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by RunKC

The facts are that when healthy we saw us do to that team in 2014 what Denver just did to them.

The Chiefs played off man bc they didn't have the horses. If the Broncos don't have Von or Roby in that game they would have gotten KILLED playing press.

Press man coverage doesn't ****ing work when you have no pressure on the QB.

Chiefs also had 200 yards rushing and 37 minutes TOP... Alex had a great stat line, so they were clicking offensively.