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Old 10-12-2012, 03:44 PM  
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***Rumor*** Pioli gets fired if Chiefs Lose in Tampa.

Title says it all. Heard on the Danny Parkins show this morning on 610 that Danny has an unnamed Source that he trusts. The source says Pioli has been told win at Tampa or his tenure is done in KC.

Can we really be this close to our goal?
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:34 PM   #211
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If you fire Pioli after the season ends, you pretty much **** yourself over for the draft. If you hire a replacement today, you can still get a new GM that can collect enough information leading into the 2013 draft.
This is not true either way.

First off, any new GM won't be hired until the season is over.

Even in such an event, whoever we hire will have done his homework on the upcoming draft.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:34 PM   #212
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Actually, it's a special exception in KC because Pioli doesn't have a College Scouting Director.

If you fire Pioli after the season ends, you pretty much **** yourself over for the draft. If you hire a replacement today, you can still get a new GM that can collect enough information leading into the 2013 draft.

I don't know. Just trying to see a bright side, but I'm skeptical.
Yeah, because no one can figure out who to draft without a CSD.



In an era were 40 million guys on the internet can accurately guess who's going in each round, a guy like this is highly overrated.
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Old 10-12-2012, 09:39 PM   #213
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Actually, it's a special exception in KC because Pioli doesn't have a College Scouting Director.

If you fire Pioli after the season ends, you pretty much **** yourself over for the draft. If you hire a replacement today, you can still get a new GM that can collect enough information leading into the 2013 draft.

I don't know. Just trying to see a bright side, but I'm skeptical.
Aren't all the people you want to replace him working until January?
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:07 PM   #214
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And everyone gave pioli as pass for 2009 draft because he didn't have his guys, well he was with New England what was he doing? Playing with himself?? Pioli sucks at drafting so ill take my chances on firing him and hiring a Baltimore or Pittsburgh guy
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:09 PM   #215
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Kinda figured Mendenhall was an idiot.

This just solidifies it even further...
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:12 PM   #216
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:39 PM   #217
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Title says it all. Heard on the Danny Parkins show this morning on 610 that Danny has an unnamed Source that he trusts. The source says Pioli has been told win at Tampa or his tenure is done in KC.

Can we really be this close to our goal?


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Old 10-12-2012, 10:50 PM   #218
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:11 PM   #220
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Yeah, because no one can figure out who to draft without a CSD.



In an era were 40 million guys on the internet can accurately guess who's going in each round, a guy like this is highly overrated.
Dane, please tell me you're not going to go the route of undermining professional scouts and comparing them to a bunch of douche bags with a computer.

CSD's are critical. Saying they're not important is saying that a bunch of talented entry level employees can function well without a manager. And that the manager is overrated.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:11 PM   #221
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Dane, please tell me you're not going to go the route of undermining professional scouts and comparing them to a bunch of douche bags with a computer.

CSD's are critical. Saying they're not important is saying that a bunch of talented entry level employees can function well without a manager. And that the manager is overrated.
A bunch of talented entry level employees can function well without a manager. and the manager is overrated. Managers are dickheads who take credit for other people's work.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:15 PM   #223
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This is not true either way.

First off, any new GM won't be hired until the season is over.

Even in such an event, whoever we hire will have done his homework on the upcoming draft.
The Browns are basically bringing in Joe Banner right now. And you can bet he's basically heading up the scouting operation in prep for the draft so they can fire Holmgren when the season ends.

And yes, if you hire a personnel guy, he'll have scouting reports. But they're the wrong reports. Scouts look for exactly what you tell them to look for. If you want fast guys, your scouting report will have only fast guys. If you have a 4-3 scout, he won't know how that player will function in a 3-4.
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:19 PM   #224
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A bunch of talented entry level employees can function well without a manager. and the manager is overrated. Managers are dickheads who take credit for other people's work.
Then you are either unmanageable or a shitty manager.

This is completely oblivious to the way the real world works. Most of us have been managed by a shitty manager and a very good manager, and those who have know the difference. Those who manage people know it's a very difficult job.
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Then you are either unmanageable or a shitty manager.

This is completely oblivious to the way the real world works. Most of us have been managed by a shitty manager and a very good manager, and those who have know the difference. Those who manage people know it's a very difficult job.
Yeah, I've had plenty of good managers. they stay in their office, get me what I need, and stay the **** out of my way. The worst managers are always the ones who actually try to manage. They're talentless hacks, that's why they're managers.
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