Chiefs Intriguing training camp battles that are becoming evident - Page 2

**RealSNR** · 05-11-2014, 11:00 AM

1. Quarterback
I hope Dorsey has enough sense to realize that if he needs money for the cap, Chase Daniel is sucking out 3 million this year. Bray and Murray are both unprovens, but one would hope that training camp and preseason would start to show that either Bray or Murray is good enough to be backup QB material. Were that to happen, the other guy would take the 3rd spot and hopefully kick Daniel to the curb.

2. Offensive line
What a freaking mess. We're bound to keep a shit ton of fatties on the final 53 roster, assuming we want to keep Kush around. After Fisher, Hudson, and Stephenson as the starters, it's anybody's guess. I'm going to assume Dr. Frenchie stays aboard because we wouldn't be so stupid as to try to stash him away on the practice squad, right? Besides, do you see anybody else on the team who can be trusted to play OT? I know Linkenbach does, but... eww. I don't want him the primary swing tackle.

So it's down to the guards now. Linkenbach should be depth at RG/RT; making him the starter just exacerbates our continuity problem next year when Hudson will likely walk AND we have to replace RG again. Jeff Allen will probably stick around (blech). So I really believe here that if the team wants to avoid doing something stupid like letting Dr. Frenchie get plucked off the waivers, they need to make the starting RG spot a winner take all situation between Fulton and Johnson. They may end up keeping 4 guards on the roster, with Linkenbach counting as a swing guy, but there are THREE dudes whose comfortable side is on the right. Somebody is going to have to move to LG incase Allen goes down. At this point I have no clue what their plans are for that. I would hope they'd try to move Johnson to left, but we'll see.

3. Cornerback
This is a problem, but a good problem. We're six guys deep:

Smith
Cooper
Flowers
Gaines
Owens
Parker

All of those guys are worth keeping on the roster, and we may try to stash them all away. But it's also possible that we only go with 5, in which case the low man has to either switch to safety or get raped. What's interesting about this battle is not only finding out if the staff will cut a hardy veteran like Flowers in training camp just to accelerate the eventual cap cut we'll need to perform at some point, but it's figuring out how the team will make use of each individual CB's skill during games. I wouldn't be surprised to see us dress at least 5 CBs each game for special teams reasons.

4. Safety
So no, we didn't draft a safety, but this has been an ongoing anticipated training camp battle. Here are the dudes:

Eric Berry
Husain Abdullah
Sanders Commings
Jerron McMillian
Malcolm Bronson
Daniel Sorenson

We got Berry (duh). Abdullah is penciled in as the starter at FS. It's highly unlikely that Commings goes anywhere (except possibly IR again). So there are 1-2 spots for McMillian, Bronson, and Sorenson, and one of them needs to be a SS depth spot. That means McMillian and Bronson are basically the only challengers.

I have no ****ing clue who Bronson is. He was supposedly a part of our training camp and preseason, but I never saw him play a single goddamn down in those games-- not even in the final game when every backup and their mother was playing most of the game. But in spite of all that, we kept him aboard on the practice squad all year over some other safeties who were probably more deserving, like McDougle. Perhaps Dorsey and Reid know something we don't about that guy. I'm willing to say no, but he's a wildcard. I'm also going to assume that Sorenson takes the 5th safety spot if we keep 5. So there's just a lot of question marks at safety. They're intriguing question marks, but question marks nonetheless.

kc79 · 05-11-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Would they go with 5 RB's?

- Charles
- Davis (likely to be PUP'd to start the year)
- Thomas
- McKnight
- Sherman

Thought Reid said Davis was fine. Ready for OTA's

htismaqe · 05-11-2014, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Maybe, but I really wouldn't be surprised to see him on either PUP or IR. Redshirt him his freshman year, as it were.

If they do that, he can't practice. That would be a BIG problem, IMO.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-11-2014, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If they do that, he can't practice. That would be a BIG problem, IMO.

This.

Which is why I hope they ditch Chase and start getting these two some snaps.

Titty Meat · 05-11-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

If they do that, he can't practice. That would be a BIG problem, IMO.

He might not be able to practice anywhere since he tore his acl why rush him back?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-11-2014, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

He might not be able to practice anywhere since he tore his acl why rush him back?

Every report I've read says he'll be able to take part in the upcoming practices.

**Bowser** · 05-11-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by kc79

Thought Reid said Davis was fine. Ready for OTA's

Wow, if true. That's a hell of a quick recovery, and I'm good with that!

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

If they do that, he can't practice. That would be a BIG problem, IMO.

I hadn't considered that. No on-field stuff at all? Yeah, that wouldn't be optimal, even if he still does the classroom work.

- Alex

- Bray

- Murray

Daniel is odd man out due to the money he'd get if he stayed.

htismaqe · 05-11-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

He might not be able to practice anywhere since he tore his acl why rush him back?

Well, if he's injured enough that he can't practice at all, that kind of puts a damn damper on the pick, doesn't it?

If they put him on PUP he is allowed to watch film and attend team meetings but is not allowed to be on the practice field at all, not even to observe.

People were pinning their hopes on him possibly being a starter in 2015. If he goes on PUP this summer, there is ZERO chance that happens.

Titty Meat · 05-11-2014, 11:40 AM

If Bray is the backup my 6-10 prediction wont be accurate but atleast they will have a really nice draft pick next year.

**The Franchise** · 05-11-2014, 11:45 AM

Murray said after he got picked that his doctors green lighted him and he should be ready to go by TC.

Cut or trade Daniel and roll with Bray and Murray as backups. Bray either shows that he does or doesn't have it.

Ceej · 05-11-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

If Bray is the backup my 6-10 prediction wont be accurate but atleast they will have a really nice draft pick next year.

To shore up the OL.

htismaqe · 05-11-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog

If Bray is the backup my 6-10 prediction wont be accurate but atleast they will have a really nice draft pick next year.

Yeah, I can't believe I never even thought of that.

The biggest reason to be excited about Murray, IMO, is that he could potentially replace Daniel right now and save us some money.

If he goes on PUP, that also becomes impossible. He's essentially a 2015 draft pick at the point.

Titty Meat · 05-11-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Well, if he's injured enough that he can't practice at all, that kind of puts a damn damper on the pick, doesn't it?

If they put him on PUP he is allowed to watch film and attend team meetings but is not allowed to be on the practice field at all, not even to observe.

People were pinning their hopes on him possibly being a starter in 2015. If he goes on PUP this summer, there is ZERO chance that happens.

No it doesnt he was a 2-3 round pick if healthy.

LOL he wont be the starter in 2015. I forgot this place thinks every late round pick could be an all pro.

splatbass · 05-11-2014, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

We're not winning anything of importance this year if Alex Smith is healthy or falls to injury.

Chase and his $3.5M clipboard holding ass needs to go, and give that time to try to develop one of these longshots into something - since we're never going to take a QB high in the draft.

Who the **** buys a lottery ticket and then never bothers to scratch it?

In Bray's case we didn't buy a lottery ticket, we found it on the ground for free. And apparently they have scratched off enough to know that he is really slow learning the offense. They will have enough information about him after preseason to know if they want to keep him or give up on him. It will cost them nothing to let him go.

OldSchool · 05-11-2014, 12:06 PM

You guys are going to be awfully upset when the Chiefs don't cut Daniels but instead end up cutting either Bray or Murray.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-11-2014, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

You guys are going to be awfully upset when the Chiefs don't cut Daniels but instead end up cutting either Bray or Murray.

Not really, because it's exactly what I expect them to do.

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